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the previous day Senate 

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Chamber, Columbus, Ohio, 

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Tuesday, March 23rd, 1:30 PM. 

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offered and adopted one 

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resolution was offered and 

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referred to committee on the 

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motion of Senator Hackett, the 

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PM. The question is shall the 

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journal be agreed to and 

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without objection the journal 

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is agreed to under points of 

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personal. Privileged the chair 

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recognizes Senator Antonio. 

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Thank you mister President I’d 

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Senate to join me in welcoming 

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a lovely family from Lakewood. 

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Lakewood often, but we do today 

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because. si. and her mom, 

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Brittany and her brother 

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Griffin are here because Sydney 

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is going to be joining the Ohio 

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State University in the fall 

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and so they’re here. For a 

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visit and I’d love it if you’d 

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all welcome them. 

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Welcome to the Senate. Chair 

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recognizes Senator Mccauley for 

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a point of personal privilege. 

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Thank you mister President I 

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rise today to say farewell to 

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somebody who’s worked for my 

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office in the first Senate 

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district since December of 

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2000. 2018. Erin flick my aid 

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for those years is leaving 

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she’s headed to greener 

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pastures at the Department of 

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Rehabilitation and Correction. 

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serving the people of the first 

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compliments about her work. She 

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will be there. And we we wish 

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her all the best in her future 

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endeavors. Thank you so much 

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for your service to the people 

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of Northwest Ohio. 

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Aaron Thanks for all your work 

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for the Senate, it’s greatly 

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appreciate. 

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Chair 

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Chair recognizes leader yuo the 

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point of personal privilege. 

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Well, thank you mister 

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president and today I rise 

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because there was 2000. 2005, I 

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was a freshman in the Ohio 

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House Representatives and I 

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introduced a bill. because I 

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had been asked to by the people 

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from the national Multiple 

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Sclerosis Society It was about 

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5 years before that when I had 

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a stroke and I was lying in the 

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hospital one night when my six 

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doctors walked in and they 

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said, Why didn’t you tell me 

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you had multiple sclerosis and 

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I said cuz. I don’t even know 

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what the hell it was, so I 

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said, I couldn’t tell you that 

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cuz II know I have it or not 

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well. They assured me. I did 

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send me down to the melon 

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center at the Cleveland Clinic 

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multiple sclerosis just trying 

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to find something about it. So 

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I knew what the heck I had to 

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deal with in life. found out 

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that it presented a lot of 

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challenges for a lot of people 

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and I’ve met a lot of good 

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people in the journey are 

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notable people was a young lady 

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University in volleyball Kim 

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sellers. She went on to Mar. A 

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basketball player from the Ohio 

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State University when I was a 

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professional career, Brad 

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sellers and when I first met 

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him, she had started the 

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sellers foundation already and 

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at that time she would walk 

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into a room and we would be 

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able to greet and hug and and 

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and shake hands and whatnot and 

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it was so impressive to listen 

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to her story. Well, it was like 

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the 6 months later, I met her 

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again for another event and she 

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came in and walked using a cane 

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and it’s about 6 months later 

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when she was using a. Then she 

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was in a wheelchair, but she 

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can they can still wheeler up 

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to a table and we could be at a 

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breakfast meeting and she could 

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eat breakfast by herself now, 

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chin down and raising three 

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daughters or four daughters. 

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her own in a very challenging 

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way. The challenge is with 

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multiple sclerosis are 

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astonishing, so we introduced 

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bill for making the month of 

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March national or well. Courses 

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Awareness Month for the State 

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of Ohio and we passed it and it 

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wasn’t just me I agree in this 

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Senators Dolan and Senator 

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Schaffer were back with me in 

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the the house back in those 

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days and they cosponsored this 

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for me and I and I thank them 

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for that. Well we continue to 

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fight for this. We passed it. 

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Governor Bob Taft signed it. I 

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remember when I gave my speech 

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in the atrium at the at the 

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multiples luncheon that year, I 

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talked a lot about my favorite 

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word when it came to MS and 

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that was being hope and I kept 

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on asking. Governor as he’s 

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gonna speak after me, I said 

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now governor you know anything 

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about hope and he assured me he 

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did and he sure is hell that 

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and with his wife’s name being 

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hope I was inducted into the 

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national multiple Sclerosis 

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Hall of Fame the year later 

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they took me down to Dallas, 

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Texas to be honored down there 

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and I can remember down there 

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walking on the stage to receive 

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my award and he asked me if I 

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wanted to say a few words and I 

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couldn’t say a word I was one 

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of the few people. There that 

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wasn’t severely affected by him 

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as it affects everybody 

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differently, but so many people 

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were like Kim sellers is now 

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and in wheelchairs and with all 

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kinds of devices and with 

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assistance that they needed, I 

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think we probably all know 

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somebody or other who who has 

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done that We’ve always had a 

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big month here in Ohio with 

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multiple sclerosis we’ve had 

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walks every Saturday and many 

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Sundays as well in the month of 

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we raised a lot of money. This 

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is the second year in a row. 

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unable to do so because of the 

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pandemic, but I did not want 

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this month to go by without 

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again reminding people. This is 

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multiple Sclerosis Awareness 

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Month if you have someone in 

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your family or in your circle 

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of friends that has it say a 

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prayer for them. It’s a 

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devastating disease when it 

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gets a hold of you and give 

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give hope to those who are 

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fighting it off. Mister 

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opportunity. Thank you leader 

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Yuo chair recognizes Senator 

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Maharaj for appointed personal 

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privilege. Thank you mister 

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President Today I rise to 

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recognize the incredible work 

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in an impact of a woman who is 

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deeply inspirational to me as 

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we continue to celebrate 

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Women’s history month and that 

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woman is US Senator from 

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Illinois Tammy Duckworth 

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Senator Duckworth is the third 

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Asian American woman to serve 

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in the United States Senate, as 

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amputee. She’s also a decorated 

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veteran of the United States 

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Army who was awarded the Purple 

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Heart and many other awards and 

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accommodations. Senator 

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Duckworth. Was born in Thailand 

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to a father who was serving in 

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the US military and a Thai 

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mother, and she spent her early 

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Thailand, Singapore Indonesia 

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high school despite being her 

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youth and other countries 

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following college, she followed 

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in her father’s footsteps and 

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join the US Army. She chose to 

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be a helicopter pilot because 

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it was one of the few combat 

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roles available to women at the 

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time and the Senator Duckworth 

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was deployed as a pilot to Iraq 

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in 2004 where. Helicopter was 

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shut down. shut shut down, 

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causing her to lose both her 

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legs despite her injuries, 

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Senator Duckworth persevered 

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but 2 years later after her 

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helicopter was shot down. She 

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then served as the director of 

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the Illinois Department of 

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Veterans Affairs before being 

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appointed assistant Secretary 

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of Veterans Affairs by 

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President Obama. She was first 

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elected to the US House of 

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Representatives in 2012 and 

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then the US Senate in 2016. 

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or even having a disability 

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prevent her from achieving her 

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goals and broke many barriers 

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history Month is a time to 

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celebrate the woman who have 

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made history. It was the woman 

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who continue to make history. 

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it is important that we uplift 

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the stories of women like 

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Senator Duckworth so that girls 

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and young women around Ohio and 

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around the country know that 

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they can achieve their dreams 

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despite any limitations placed 

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on them and then it’s important 

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as legislators that we continue 

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to remove any potential 

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limitations on young girls and 

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women. Thank you mister 

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President for indulging me 

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today. Thank you senator that 

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you’re now recognized Senator 

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Serena with the point of 

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personal privilege Senator. 

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Thank you mister President 

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to recognize the charitable 

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work of a group of women with 

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we continue to recognize the 

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accomplishments of so many 

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women in our state, this group 

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of women has served the elderly 

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poor in Ohio and in about 

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thirty countries all across the 

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globe. Mister President I. 

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Speaking of the little sisters 

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of the poor after being founded 

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in France in 1839, the first 

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little sisters arrived on 

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American soil in 1868 and 

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established thirteen homes for 

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the elderly poor in their first 

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4 years, a group of sisters 

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arrived in Cincinnati on 

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October 14th 1868 and 

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established their first home 

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with the assistance of Sarah 

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Worthington, Peter daughter of 

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former Ohio Governor and 

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Senator Thomas Worthington in 

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1870. Sisters opened a home in 

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Cleveland as well these These 

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sisters take no compensation 

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and serve the needy from all 

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walks of life. They have not 

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been on the cover of Vogue 

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magazine nor have they sought 

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to become icons in a movement 

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Instead, they are dedicated to 

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serving the needy with genuine 

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humility mister president the 

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only publicity they have 

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received is the result of 

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protecting their religious 

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liberty rights, which have been 

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challenged in Washington over 

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the last several years all. 

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Fine women wanted to do was to 

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continue to do their charitable 

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services to the needy, but 

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instead found themselves 

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potentially paying millions in 

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legal fees to defend their 

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religious liberties after 7 

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years of continuous legal 

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conflict, the Supreme Court 

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ruled seven to two to allow the 

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little sisters to continue 

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their services to the poor 

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without sacrificing their 

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religious liberty Mister 

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President We are proud of their 

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roots in Ohio and their 

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dedication to serving those who 

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need it. Most. They are an 

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important part of Ohio’s 

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history and women that. Should 

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indeed celebrate thank you 

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mister President Thank you 

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Senator. reports of reference 

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and bills for consideration. 

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Senator Matt Huffman reports 

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the Standing Committee on Rules 

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and reference recommend the 

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following bills and resolutions 

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standing in order for second 

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consideration be referred to 

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the committee as recommended in 

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the report is properly signed. 

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The question is shall the 

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report be agreed to and without 

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objection, the report is agreed 

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to reports of standing in 

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select committee Senator Dolan 

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with a report Senator Dolan. 

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The following report the 

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Standing Committee on Finance, 

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which was referred to 111 

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senators blessing Brenner, have 

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under the same consideration, 

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reports back a substitute bill 

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and recommends its passage. 

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Senator Peterson with a report. 

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Senator Peterson submitted the 

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fall report the Standing 

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Committee on Energy and Public 

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Utilities to which is referred 

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substitute House Bill 128 

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representative of Hoops and 

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others have the same 

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consideration reports back with 

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the following amendments and 

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recommends passage when so 

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amended and the reports are 

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probably signed the question 

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is. Reports be agreed to and 

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without objection, the reports 

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are agreed to Senator Matt 

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Huffman with an advice and 

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consent report of governor’s 

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appointments. Senator Matt 

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Huffman submitted the fall 

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report The Standing Committee 

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on Rules and reference to which 

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referred the appointments by 

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the governor of Kent, a Hans 

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and others have done the same 

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consideration reports back the 

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recommendation that the Senate 

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adviser consent to set 

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appointments The question is 

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shall the Senate advice and 

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consent to the appointments of 

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the governor. The clerk will 

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call the roll. And to Antonio, 

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blessing Brenner sereno Craig 

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Dolan, Federer Gav Hackett 

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Ottinger Steve Huffman Johnson 

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Kunz lang Maha Manning Mccauley 

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O’brien Peterson. reineke. 

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Roku. Schaefer sheen. Thomas 

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Williams. Wilson, Yes, Yuo Matt 

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Huffman Yes. With 33 years and 

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zero nays, the Senate does 

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advise and consent in the 

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appointments of the governor 

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Senator Matt Hoffman with an 

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advice and consent report of 

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attorney general Appointments 

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Senator Matt Huffman submitted 

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the phone report the Standing 

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Committee on Rules and 

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reference were referred by the 

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appointments of the Attorney 

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General of Dorsey, Hager and 

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others have the same 

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consideration reports back to 

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the recommendation that the 

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Senate advising and sent to set 

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appointment. The question is 

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shall the Senate advice and 

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consent to the appointments of 

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the attorney General clerk will 

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call the roll. 

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And Tony Antonio, blessing 

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Brenner sereno Craig Dolan, 

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Federer Gav Packet Poland 

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Ottinger Steve Huffman Johnson. 

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Koozie. Maha 

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Mccauley O’brien Peterson 

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reineke 

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Rou 

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Rou Schaefer she. Sykes Thomas 

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Williams, Wilson Yuo Matt 

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Huffman Yes. With 33 years and 

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zero nays, the Senate does 

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advice and consent in the 

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appointments of the attorney 

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general message from the 

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governor. 

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To Article two section sixteen 

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of the Constitution, which 

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states the governor made 

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disapprove of any bill I hereby 

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disapprove of substitutes and 

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Abel twenty-two and set forth 

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the following reasons for doing 

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so and when is where of signed 

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Mike Dewine governor. the 

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message from the governor and 

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the veto Senate Bill Twenty-two 

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has been provided to all 

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members if there are no 

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objections, the Senate will 

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dispense of reading the message 

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in full the question is. Shall 

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the bill pass not withstanding 

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the objections of the governor 

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and the chair recognizes 

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Senator Mccauley. Thank you 

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mister President I rise in 

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support of us overriding the 

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veto of the governor and indeed 

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it is somewhat ironic that we 

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stand here today in a bill that 

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is meant to ensure and restore 

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the natural separation of 

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powers the reasonable checks 

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and balances that we are using 

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our own checks and balances on 

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the governor’s power today to 

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be able to reassert. As a coal 

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branch of government and I 

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would also pause it that in the 

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event that we are unsuccessful 

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today we have to understand 

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that the governor has a check 

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on us by videoing, but we also 

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have a check on his veto power 

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by overriding his veto and in 

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the event that we are 

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unsuccessful today, then we 

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would be willfully seeding our 

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legislative power to the 

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governor yet again. so I would 

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urge us to follow through and 

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override the. Veto many of you 

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have already seen the 

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governor’s veto message. all I 

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can really say about that is 

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that I wholeheartedly and fully 

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disagree with many of the 

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characters he makes in his veto 

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message to all of us here in 

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the Legislature much of it in 

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my opinion is based upon 

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hyperbole and misunderstandings 

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of the bill and one of the 

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things that I find that is 

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arguably. Most offensive if you 

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will about one of his 

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objections to the bill is his 

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objection to anybody being able 

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to bring a cause of action 

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against the state of Ohio in 

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their home county or in the 

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county in which their business 

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is located many of us represent 

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parts of the state that are 

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sometimes close to 3 hours from 

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the state from the city of 

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Columbus, I know I do, I know 

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Sandy O’brien does as well We 

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represent parts of the state 

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that are 3 hours from Columbus. 

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Meaning if we have a small 

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business owner who’s restaurant 

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is closed unconstitutionally 

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not only are we gonna force 

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them to give up their $200 an 

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hour attorney or whatever the 

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going rate is up in Williams 

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County, Ohio in my district, 

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but we’re gonna force them to 

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go all the way down to Columbus 

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in the home Court, the home 

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City of State government and 

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have to probably hire an 

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attorney down there for a 

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significantly larger rate than 

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what they’d be paying in their 

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home County. for many. Be cost 

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prohibitive, especially if your 

541
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business has seen significant 

542
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revenue reduction due to the 

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actions of the government now 

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or in the future ladies and 

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gentlemen, that’s a denial of 

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the access to justice. That’s a 

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denial of the proper redress of 

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these people’s legal grievances 

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against the state of Ohio to 

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place that amount of favoritism 

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towards the defendant in cases 

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like. Is forgetting who we 

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really serve. And that to me is 

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something we should all take a 

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little bit of offense to. is 

556
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the fact that he is suggesting 

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that somehow, by virtue of 

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being the name defendant in the 

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case, the state of Ohio should 

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be entitled to special 

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treatment of being able to be 

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sued in their home venue. There 

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are variety of other reasons. 

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that I think we should override 

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the veto and that I disagree 

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respectfully with the message 

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of the governor he talks about 

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constitutionality. We’ve talked 

569
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at length about how this bill 

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is constitutional how there are 

571
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over a dozen other examples of 

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the legislature being able to 

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over. An action of the 

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executive branch be a 

575
00:18:42,722 --> 00:18:44,056
concurrent resolution already 

576
00:18:44,056 --> 00:18:45,158
in the revised code 

577
00:18:45,158 --> 00:18:46,058
unchallenged sometimes there 

578
00:18:46,058 --> 00:18:48,762
for four decades yet somehow 

579
00:18:48,762 --> 00:18:52,264
this is unconstitutional so 

580
00:18:52,264 --> 00:18:52,766
unconstitutional that the 

581
00:18:52,766 --> 00:18:54,834
governor himself proposed it in 

582
00:18:54,834 --> 00:18:57,770
his 2019 budget proposal 

583
00:18:57,770 --> 00:19:00,239
virtually the exact same 

584
00:19:00,239 --> 00:19:02,775
mechanism for overriding an 

585
00:19:02,775 --> 00:19:05,245
emergency order yet somehow now 

586
00:19:05,245 --> 00:19:07,713
this is unconstitutional. 

587
00:19:07,713 --> 00:19:10,817
ladies and gentlemen. It’s time 

588
00:19:10,817 --> 00:19:14,721
for us to stand up for the 

589
00:19:14,721 --> 00:19:17,190
legislative branch It’s time 

590
00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:20,193
for us to reassert ourselves as 

591
00:19:20,193 --> 00:19:23,129
a separate and equal branch of 

592
00:19:23,129 --> 00:19:25,365
government. here in the state 

593
00:19:25,365 --> 00:19:26,833
of Ohio. It’s time for us to 

594
00:19:26,833 --> 00:19:28,501
acknowledge that the authority 

595
00:19:28,501 --> 00:19:29,702
that’s been given to the 

596
00:19:29,702 --> 00:19:31,137
governor was given to the 

597
00:19:31,137 --> 00:19:33,874
governor by the Legislature and 

598
00:19:33,874 --> 00:19:35,208
it is authority that is 

599
00:19:35,208 --> 00:19:37,243
inherently reserved to the 

600
00:19:37,243 --> 00:19:38,344
Legislature during non 

601
00:19:38,344 --> 00:19:41,281
emergency times. We need to 

602
00:19:41,281 --> 00:19:43,916
stand up and we need to finish 

603
00:19:43,916 --> 00:19:45,451
this for all the Ohioans who 

604
00:19:45,451 --> 00:19:46,919
have been asking us for a long 

605
00:19:46,919 --> 00:19:49,222
time to be their voice at the 

606
00:19:49,222 --> 00:19:51,991
table. Ladies and gentlemen I 

607
00:19:51,991 --> 00:19:55,695
urge override of the veto. And 

608
00:19:55,695 --> 00:19:56,329
consider the question is shall 

609
00:19:56,329 --> 00:19:58,397
the bill pass not withstanding 

610
00:19:58,397 --> 00:19:59,665
the objections of the governor 

611
00:19:59,665 --> 00:20:00,433
and the chair recognizes 

612
00:20:00,433 --> 00:20:05,037
Senator Antonio. 

613
00:20:08,374 --> 00:20:12,279
Thank you mister president. I 

614
00:20:12,279 --> 00:20:17,049
rise to urge a no vote. 

615
00:20:17,717 --> 00:20:20,186
On this on this issue that 

616
00:20:20,186 --> 00:20:21,988
we’ve been too many times and 

617
00:20:21,988 --> 00:20:25,325
we’ve had many discussions on I 

618
00:20:25,325 --> 00:20:26,826
appreciate the comments of my 

619
00:20:26,826 --> 00:20:30,762
colleague with regard to 

620
00:20:30,762 --> 00:20:33,333
lawsuits and the ability to 

621
00:20:33,333 --> 00:20:37,636
sue. but but my concern lies in 

622
00:20:37,636 --> 00:20:39,204
the safety and the health and 

623
00:20:39,204 --> 00:20:41,740
the well being of the people of 

624
00:20:41,740 --> 00:20:45,345
Ohio in an emergency. when 

625
00:20:45,345 --> 00:20:49,749
there’s a crisis. We are a 

626
00:20:49,749 --> 00:20:51,751
deliberative branch of 

627
00:20:51,751 --> 00:20:55,955
government We are co equal. but 

628
00:20:55,955 --> 00:20:57,690
sometimes and you all gotta be 

629
00:20:57,690 --> 00:20:59,759
with me on this our 

630
00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:02,728
deliberation takes a while. 

631
00:21:02,728 --> 00:21:04,597
we’re deliberating right now on 

632
00:21:04,597 --> 00:21:08,166
a budget for transportation. 

633
00:21:08,166 --> 00:21:11,771
It’s good that we take our time 

634
00:21:11,771 --> 00:21:14,841
it’s important for us to have 

635
00:21:14,841 --> 00:21:18,710
debate. but in a. In an 

636
00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:22,148
emergency. when lives are on 

637
00:21:22,148 --> 00:21:25,652
the line. there has to be 

638
00:21:25,652 --> 00:21:28,420
somebody able to make a 

639
00:21:28,420 --> 00:21:33,225
decision. quickly. with 

640
00:21:33,225 --> 00:21:35,428
authority to do the best that 

641
00:21:35,428 --> 00:21:38,898
they can. believing that what 

642
00:21:38,898 --> 00:21:40,499
they’re doing is in the best 

643
00:21:40,499 --> 00:21:42,868
interest of the majority of the 

644
00:21:42,868 --> 00:21:45,805
people that they represent we 

645
00:21:45,805 --> 00:21:47,240
can debate after the fact on 

646
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,310
whether or not it. The best way 

647
00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:54,613
forward. I don’t believe for a 

648
00:21:54,613 --> 00:21:57,817
minute if we if this bill had 

649
00:21:57,817 --> 00:22:00,920
been in place. that we would 

650
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,322
see less lives lost, I believe 

651
00:22:03,322 --> 00:22:05,925
we would have seen more lives 

652
00:22:05,925 --> 00:22:10,129
lost. We can’t agree on how to 

653
00:22:10,129 --> 00:22:12,197
deal with this pandemic right 

654
00:22:12,197 --> 00:22:16,001
now. how in the world would a 

655
00:22:16,001 --> 00:22:18,003
group of legislators come 

656
00:22:18,003 --> 00:22:20,706
together with. All different 

657
00:22:20,706 --> 00:22:23,308
opinions listening and 

658
00:22:23,308 --> 00:22:25,178
believing all different 

659
00:22:25,178 --> 00:22:28,848
information from science. To 

660
00:22:28,848 --> 00:22:33,152
make a decision. 

661
00:22:33,251 --> 00:22:34,720
Fashion dealing with an 

662
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,822
emergency I just don’t think it 

663
00:22:36,822 --> 00:22:39,091
would be possible. I think this 

664
00:22:39,091 --> 00:22:45,832
is dangerous. I urge a no vote. 

665
00:22:45,832 --> 00:22:47,232
Thank you, Senator the chair 

666
00:22:47,232 --> 00:22:51,337
recognizes Senator Federer. 

667
00:22:53,773 --> 00:22:55,274
Thank you mister President I 

668
00:22:55,274 --> 00:22:57,342
stand in opposition to this 

669
00:22:57,342 --> 00:22:59,078
veto override and applaud the 

670
00:22:59,078 --> 00:23:00,479
governor’s decision to veto 

671
00:23:00,479 --> 00:23:02,615
Senate Bill twenty-two 

672
00:23:02,615 --> 00:23:04,350
throughout the many debates on 

673
00:23:04,350 --> 00:23:05,751
this issue we have heard from 

674
00:23:05,751 --> 00:23:08,253
many health experts and 

675
00:23:08,253 --> 00:23:09,855
government officials opposed to 

676
00:23:09,855 --> 00:23:11,157
this legislation, including the 

677
00:23:11,157 --> 00:23:13,693
Ohio State Medical Association 

678
00:23:13,693 --> 00:23:15,394
and numerous county health 

679
00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:17,396
departments in the past year 

680
00:23:17,396 --> 00:23:20,298
over 17000 Ohioans have died 

681
00:23:20,298 --> 00:23:25,004
from covid-19. if it were. For 

682
00:23:25,004 --> 00:23:28,641
the courageous effort. from our 

683
00:23:28,641 --> 00:23:30,276
governor, I’m convinced we 

684
00:23:30,276 --> 00:23:32,645
would be citing a higher rate 

685
00:23:32,645 --> 00:23:36,749
of covid-19 deaths. This time 

686
00:23:36,749 --> 00:23:38,316
of crisis is not the time to 

687
00:23:38,316 --> 00:23:39,952
start restricting the authority 

688
00:23:39,952 --> 00:23:42,322
of the Department of Health and 

689
00:23:42,322 --> 00:23:44,089
local governments this 

690
00:23:44,089 --> 00:23:47,494
dangerous legislation. would 

691
00:23:47,494 --> 00:23:49,395
have put Ohioans lives at risk 

692
00:23:49,395 --> 00:23:51,197
and prevented future 

693
00:23:51,197 --> 00:23:51,797
administrations from being able 

694
00:23:51,797 --> 00:23:55,300
to swiftly respond to deadly 

695
00:23:55,300 --> 00:23:55,734
pandemics or other public 

696
00:23:55,734 --> 00:23:58,637
health crisis. This legislation 

697
00:23:58,637 --> 00:24:01,374
will tie the hands hinder the 

698
00:24:01,374 --> 00:24:03,209
ability of local health 

699
00:24:03,209 --> 00:24:04,109
departments to respond to 

700
00:24:04,109 --> 00:24:06,912
public health crisis last. 

701
00:24:06,912 --> 00:24:08,614
Amendments by the House prevent 

702
00:24:08,614 --> 00:24:10,382
local health boards from 

703
00:24:10,382 --> 00:24:11,684
isolating or quarantine 

704
00:24:11,684 --> 00:24:13,285
individuals unless they were 

705
00:24:13,285 --> 00:24:15,754
exposed or in case of medical 

706
00:24:15,754 --> 00:24:18,224
diagnosis such a critical 

707
00:24:18,224 --> 00:24:20,358
change in the last minute and 

708
00:24:20,358 --> 00:24:22,661
local authority deserve 

709
00:24:22,661 --> 00:24:23,829
thoughtful consideration but 

710
00:24:23,829 --> 00:24:26,331
local stakeholders were not 

711
00:24:26,331 --> 00:24:28,400
given the opportunity to review 

712
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,669
the proposal or provide public 

713
00:24:30,669 --> 00:24:33,406
testimony. Plainly. This is a 

714
00:24:33,406 --> 00:24:37,376
bad process This is a bad. And 

715
00:24:37,376 --> 00:24:40,613
it will hurt Ohioans. It has 

716
00:24:40,613 --> 00:24:42,081
been said that this bill would 

717
00:24:42,081 --> 00:24:44,216
not prevent the initial 

718
00:24:44,216 --> 00:24:45,217
implementation of public health 

719
00:24:45,217 --> 00:24:47,820
orders during an emergency. but 

720
00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:48,554
rather allow legislative 

721
00:24:48,554 --> 00:24:50,022
committee to review those 

722
00:24:50,022 --> 00:24:53,325
orders for continuation. It’s 

723
00:24:53,325 --> 00:24:55,795
time to stand up for science to 

724
00:24:55,795 --> 00:24:57,730
protect our lives not 

725
00:24:57,730 --> 00:25:01,467
politicians. However, by 

726
00:25:01,467 --> 00:25:02,735
prohibiting this issuance of 

727
00:25:02,735 --> 00:25:03,735
essential public health 

728
00:25:03,735 --> 00:25:05,471
mitigation strategies, even in 

729
00:25:05,471 --> 00:25:07,740
cases of immediate threats to 

730
00:25:07,740 --> 00:25:09,475
public health, it will do 

731
00:25:09,475 --> 00:25:11,744
exactly that eliminating the 

732
00:25:11,744 --> 00:25:13,379
ability of local health 

733
00:25:13,379 --> 00:25:15,480
departments to timely respond 

734
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,383
to public health issues could 

735
00:25:17,383 --> 00:25:19,518
have far-reaching consequences 

736
00:25:19,518 --> 00:25:21,287
well beyond this current 

737
00:25:21,287 --> 00:25:23,188
pandemic, The Ohio 

738
00:25:23,188 --> 00:25:26,292
Constitution. specifies that 

739
00:25:26,292 --> 00:25:28,761
quote the General Assembly 

740
00:25:28,761 --> 00:25:30,863
shall enact no law except by 

741
00:25:30,863 --> 00:25:33,832
bill. In interpreting that 

742
00:25:33,832 --> 00:25:35,934
provision the Ohio Supreme 

743
00:25:35,934 --> 00:25:37,737
Court has ruled that a joint 

744
00:25:37,737 --> 00:25:38,837
resolution cannot have the 

745
00:25:38,837 --> 00:25:41,774
effect of law. a reviewing 

746
00:25:41,774 --> 00:25:43,776
court might find that the 

747
00:25:43,776 --> 00:25:45,277
General Assembly Cannot take an 

748
00:25:45,277 --> 00:25:47,012
action with legal effect such 

749
00:25:47,012 --> 00:25:48,614
as rescinding an order of the 

750
00:25:48,614 --> 00:25:50,349
governor or the Ohio Department 

751
00:25:50,349 --> 00:25:52,584
of Health, except by passing a 

752
00:25:52,584 --> 00:25:54,819
bill. This is dangerous ground 

753
00:25:54,819 --> 00:25:57,890
and a slippery slope folks. the 

754
00:25:57,890 --> 00:25:59,725
US Supreme Court similarly has 

755
00:25:59,725 --> 00:26:01,327
ruled that Congress cannot 

756
00:26:01,327 --> 00:26:02,829
overrule determination of an 

757
00:26:02,829 --> 00:26:06,332
executive official by passing. 

758
00:26:06,332 --> 00:26:09,268
Why do we insist on passing 

759
00:26:09,268 --> 00:26:10,903
potentially unconstitutional 

760
00:26:10,903 --> 00:26:13,038
legislation? This is not the 

761
00:26:13,038 --> 00:26:15,808
time to take up this issue We 

762
00:26:15,808 --> 00:26:17,576
need to be about helping people 

763
00:26:17,576 --> 00:26:18,677
save their lives and put their 

764
00:26:18,677 --> 00:26:21,280
lives back together after 100 

765
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,816
year pandemic. Imagine if we 

766
00:26:23,816 --> 00:26:26,518
saw this much determination and 

767
00:26:26,518 --> 00:26:27,319
tenacity from this general 

768
00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:28,753
assembly to pass legislation 

769
00:26:28,753 --> 00:26:31,857
that actually helps people like 

770
00:26:31,857 --> 00:26:35,728
school funding. We should 

771
00:26:35,728 --> 00:26:37,897
prioritize bills that support 

772
00:26:37,897 --> 00:26:39,398
Ohio’s families businesses 

773
00:26:39,398 --> 00:26:40,733
schools as they recover from 

774
00:26:40,733 --> 00:26:43,336
the pandemic. not these 

775
00:26:43,336 --> 00:26:44,837
continual power grabs I along 

776
00:26:44,837 --> 00:26:47,407
with the majority of Ohioans, 

777
00:26:47,407 --> 00:26:49,074
believe Governor Dewine actions 

778
00:26:49,074 --> 00:26:51,309
during this pandemic saved many 

779
00:26:51,309 --> 00:26:53,112
lives and we thank you 

780
00:26:53,112 --> 00:26:55,347
Governor. We thank you for 

781
00:26:55,347 --> 00:26:56,048
saving the lives. We don’t even 

782
00:26:56,048 --> 00:27:00,152
know you saved. So please do 

783
00:27:00,152 --> 00:27:01,487
the right thing for Ohio and 

784
00:27:01,487 --> 00:27:04,022
join me in voting. No on this 

785
00:27:04,022 --> 00:27:06,726
veto override. Thank you 

786
00:27:06,726 --> 00:27:08,560
Senator the chair recognizes 

787
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,531
Senator Thomas. 

788
00:27:33,786 --> 00:27:34,720
Senator a moment don’t think 

789
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,258
the microphones on. 

790
00:27:41,293 --> 00:27:44,363
Is it? 

791
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:59,111
Just while we have a technical 

792
00:27:59,111 --> 00:28:00,745
if you wanna grab Senator Eo’s 

793
00:28:00,745 --> 00:28:02,281
Mike, I think we can do that. 

794
00:28:02,281 --> 00:28:05,318
Yeah. 

795
00:28:06,285 --> 00:28:08,788
Thank you mister president. I 

796
00:28:08,788 --> 00:28:11,890
stand in opposition to the. to 

797
00:28:11,890 --> 00:28:14,526
override and the question is 

798
00:28:14,526 --> 00:28:16,429
simply whose report are you 

799
00:28:16,429 --> 00:28:19,265
going to believe? And I ask 

800
00:28:19,265 --> 00:28:22,367
that question simply because. 

801
00:28:22,367 --> 00:28:26,371
so many experts. in the field 

802
00:28:26,371 --> 00:28:29,308
of public health have all come 

803
00:28:29,308 --> 00:28:32,377
out. Opposition to this 

804
00:28:32,377 --> 00:28:36,515
particular bill and the reason 

805
00:28:36,515 --> 00:28:37,817
they came out in opposition to 

806
00:28:37,817 --> 00:28:41,254
it was simple. They want a 

807
00:28:41,254 --> 00:28:45,224
clear consistent. informative 

808
00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:48,927
message. in time of public 

809
00:28:48,927 --> 00:28:50,296
health crisis. They want that 

810
00:28:50,296 --> 00:28:51,730
message coming clear and 

811
00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:54,332
consistent and informative from 

812
00:28:54,332 --> 00:28:57,203
the. the government the state, 

813
00:28:57,203 --> 00:29:00,806
the director of health. that 

814
00:29:00,806 --> 00:29:03,309
director of health. we are 

815
00:29:03,309 --> 00:29:06,212
expected to hear based on 

816
00:29:06,212 --> 00:29:11,049
science and data as to. We what 

817
00:29:11,049 --> 00:29:12,351
we should do all of these local 

818
00:29:12,351 --> 00:29:14,419
health departments. they look 

819
00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:16,555
for that. they’re not gonna be 

820
00:29:16,555 --> 00:29:19,024
looking for a debate as to 

821
00:29:19,024 --> 00:29:21,593
whether we should shelter in 

822
00:29:21,593 --> 00:29:23,762
place or go outside and all of 

823
00:29:23,762 --> 00:29:24,963
that. they’re not gonna be 

824
00:29:24,963 --> 00:29:25,865
looking for that. they’re gonna 

825
00:29:25,865 --> 00:29:29,836
be listening to whomever has 

826
00:29:29,836 --> 00:29:30,969
been charged with the 

827
00:29:30,969 --> 00:29:33,338
responsibility of our public 

828
00:29:33,338 --> 00:29:37,776
health at the state level. So I 

829
00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:40,712
just say again we can listen to 

830
00:29:40,712 --> 00:29:43,282
the experts. that they have 

831
00:29:43,282 --> 00:29:46,184
access to. I don’t have access 

832
00:29:46,184 --> 00:29:48,854
to the experts probably none of 

833
00:29:48,854 --> 00:29:50,455
us in here do on a continuous 

834
00:29:50,455 --> 00:29:52,358
regular basis, not just local 

835
00:29:52,358 --> 00:29:55,794
experts but around the world. 

836
00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:58,063
When you have a public health 

837
00:29:58,063 --> 00:30:02,301
crisis. and I do understand the 

838
00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:03,936
efforts to say well, wait a 

839
00:30:03,936 --> 00:30:06,239
minute, maybe we need to check 

840
00:30:06,239 --> 00:30:08,807
with before we do so and so 

841
00:30:08,807 --> 00:30:09,675
maybe we need to rethink this 

842
00:30:09,675 --> 00:30:13,344
and all of that. In the 

843
00:30:13,344 --> 00:30:14,746
beginning when a public health 

844
00:30:14,746 --> 00:30:17,282
crisis occurs, you want clear 

845
00:30:17,282 --> 00:30:19,718
decisive decisions to be made 

846
00:30:19,718 --> 00:30:23,021
immediately. And we all know 

847
00:30:23,021 --> 00:30:23,422
that there could be a time it 

848
00:30:23,422 --> 00:30:25,190
could be the fourth of July 

849
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:26,091
when everybody’s out of town 

850
00:30:26,091 --> 00:30:27,626
and all of us are are you gonna 

851
00:30:27,626 --> 00:30:29,394
come back into the legislature 

852
00:30:29,394 --> 00:30:31,329
and make a decision are you 

853
00:30:31,329 --> 00:30:33,231
gonna rely on those that are 

854
00:30:33,231 --> 00:30:35,434
already there who have the 

855
00:30:35,434 --> 00:30:39,204
information we had committees 

856
00:30:39,204 --> 00:30:42,908
discussions on this. so many 

857
00:30:42,908 --> 00:30:45,410
came in testimony and to 

858
00:30:45,410 --> 00:30:50,215
testify to the dangers. You 

859
00:30:50,215 --> 00:30:51,684
serpent the authority of the 

860
00:30:51,684 --> 00:30:53,284
public health director 

861
00:30:53,284 --> 00:30:55,854
questioning the decisions. when 

862
00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:57,288
you’re in a time of an 

863
00:30:57,288 --> 00:31:01,193
immediate. decision to be made. 

864
00:31:01,193 --> 00:31:02,694
so I stand with all of those 

865
00:31:02,694 --> 00:31:05,797
folks that came in and spoke. 

866
00:31:05,797 --> 00:31:09,201
all of the. Representatives of 

867
00:31:09,201 --> 00:31:13,238
the the Director of Health 

868
00:31:13,238 --> 00:31:14,539
Administration that that’s 

869
00:31:14,539 --> 00:31:15,740
under under the director of 

870
00:31:15,740 --> 00:31:18,143
health they came in and spoke 

871
00:31:18,143 --> 00:31:20,780
and they were very these were 

872
00:31:20,780 --> 00:31:21,747
doctors and scientists and all 

873
00:31:21,747 --> 00:31:23,516
the folks we have working for 

874
00:31:23,516 --> 00:31:26,918
us. There’s nothing wrong folks 

875
00:31:26,918 --> 00:31:30,222
with trying to. fix the 

876
00:31:30,222 --> 00:31:32,691
problem, but you can have 

877
00:31:32,691 --> 00:31:34,393
significant unintended 

878
00:31:34,393 --> 00:31:37,362
consequences. and based on all 

879
00:31:37,362 --> 00:31:40,065
of the health departments and 

880
00:31:40,065 --> 00:31:41,199
all of the folks in the state 

881
00:31:41,199 --> 00:31:43,868
of Ohio. who’s signed up to say 

882
00:31:43,868 --> 00:31:47,372
they were in opposition to. 

883
00:31:47,372 --> 00:31:50,876
That’s telling us all something 

884
00:31:50,876 --> 00:31:52,744
that in that profession in that 

885
00:31:52,744 --> 00:31:56,314
arena, they know best not us. 

886
00:31:56,314 --> 00:31:58,850
And it’s good to have and talk 

887
00:31:58,850 --> 00:32:01,887
it, but it’s not a good to just 

888
00:32:01,887 --> 00:32:03,821
handcuff them from doing their 

889
00:32:03,821 --> 00:32:06,825
job. So with that, I urge no 

890
00:32:06,825 --> 00:32:10,094
vote on the. veto override. 

891
00:32:10,094 --> 00:32:11,897
Thank you. Thank you. Thank 

892
00:32:11,897 --> 00:32:13,766
you. Senator the chair 

893
00:32:13,766 --> 00:32:17,369
recognizes Senator Maharaj. 

894
00:32:17,369 --> 00:32:18,704
Thank you mister president, so 

895
00:32:18,704 --> 00:32:19,805
I just wanted to set the 

896
00:32:19,805 --> 00:32:21,273
message straight here today 

897
00:32:21,273 --> 00:32:23,809
that it wasn’t the health 

898
00:32:23,809 --> 00:32:25,444
orders that hurt businesses. It 

899
00:32:25,444 --> 00:32:28,880
was the pandemic. and there’s 

900
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,315
no doubt in my mind that the 

901
00:32:30,315 --> 00:32:32,952
actions that doctor Acton early 

902
00:32:32,952 --> 00:32:33,752
on took early on in this 

903
00:32:33,752 --> 00:32:35,921
pandemic saved lives and I 

904
00:32:35,921 --> 00:32:38,290
believe that the governor and 

905
00:32:38,290 --> 00:32:39,791
the health director needed to 

906
00:32:39,791 --> 00:32:41,159
move quickly and as they did, 

907
00:32:41,159 --> 00:32:42,761
they did issue health orders to 

908
00:32:42,761 --> 00:32:43,962
save lives and we should 

909
00:32:43,962 --> 00:32:45,430
continue to let the governor 

910
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:46,599
and the state health director 

911
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:47,732
have the authority to make 

912
00:32:47,732 --> 00:32:49,034
those decisions to protect 

913
00:32:49,034 --> 00:32:50,368
human lives during a pandemic 

914
00:32:50,368 --> 00:32:53,472
we. We save lives We saved a 

915
00:32:53,472 --> 00:32:55,775
lot of lives and we kind of 

916
00:32:55,775 --> 00:32:57,042
continue to do the same, but it 

917
00:32:57,042 --> 00:32:58,510
was just a continuous argument 

918
00:32:58,510 --> 00:32:59,812
back and forth between both 

919
00:32:59,812 --> 00:33:01,780
houses that what the governor 

920
00:33:01,780 --> 00:33:03,882
is doing is wrong but under 

921
00:33:03,882 --> 00:33:05,416
this bill, it also uses an even 

922
00:33:05,416 --> 00:33:06,651
broader definition of what 

923
00:33:06,651 --> 00:33:07,953
state emergency is. not just 

924
00:33:07,953 --> 00:33:09,288
for emergencies related to 

925
00:33:09,288 --> 00:33:11,255
public health and under this 

926
00:33:11,255 --> 00:33:12,124
bill, the General Assembly 

927
00:33:12,124 --> 00:33:13,458
could block any executive order 

928
00:33:13,458 --> 00:33:15,727
or agency order related to 

929
00:33:15,727 --> 00:33:16,861
declare a public health 

930
00:33:16,861 --> 00:33:18,663
emergency This bill is very 

931
00:33:18,663 --> 00:33:19,731
dangerous and I rise in 

932
00:33:19,731 --> 00:33:22,368
opposition. To the override, 

933
00:33:22,368 --> 00:33:23,736
thank you thank you, Senator 

934
00:33:23,736 --> 00:33:25,837
the chair recognizes Senator 

935
00:33:25,837 --> 00:33:29,074
Mccauley. 

936
00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:30,776
Thank you mister President I 

937
00:33:30,776 --> 00:33:32,744
rise just to make a point of 

938
00:33:32,744 --> 00:33:34,412
clarification and I know this 

939
00:33:34,412 --> 00:33:36,148
is the third time we’ve talked 

940
00:33:36,148 --> 00:33:37,616
about this bill so I will try 

941
00:33:37,616 --> 00:33:39,918
to make it quick. There’s a lot 

942
00:33:39,918 --> 00:33:41,486
of talk right now about people 

943
00:33:41,486 --> 00:33:42,754
saying we are somehow 

944
00:33:42,754 --> 00:33:45,324
preventing the governor or the 

945
00:33:45,324 --> 00:33:46,691
Department of Health or 

946
00:33:46,691 --> 00:33:48,926
somebody from taking action. 

947
00:33:48,926 --> 00:33:51,697
There is nothing in this bill 

948
00:33:51,697 --> 00:33:53,232
that prevents them from taking 

949
00:33:53,232 --> 00:33:55,701
action every single check and 

950
00:33:55,701 --> 00:33:57,268
balance that would be put in 

951
00:33:57,268 --> 00:34:00,272
place would be after the fact. 

952
00:34:00,272 --> 00:34:02,841
There’s no requirement that the 

953
00:34:02,841 --> 00:34:04,376
the Legislature Act or that the 

954
00:34:04,376 --> 00:34:05,777
legislature have an up or down 

955
00:34:05,777 --> 00:34:07,745
vote on any of those orders, 

956
00:34:07,745 --> 00:34:09,347
meaning if the will of the 

957
00:34:09,347 --> 00:34:10,615
legislature was to leave orders 

958
00:34:10,615 --> 00:34:12,584
in place in some future issue 

959
00:34:12,584 --> 00:34:13,919
or crisis we could leave them 

960
00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:16,455
in place indefinitely if we 

961
00:34:16,455 --> 00:34:18,991
really wanted to and so there’s 

962
00:34:18,991 --> 00:34:21,327
nothing in here that is somehow 

963
00:34:21,327 --> 00:34:23,796
paralyzing the executive branch 

964
00:34:23,796 --> 00:34:25,397
and not allowing them to act 

965
00:34:25,397 --> 00:34:26,998
swiftly and flexibly. as 

966
00:34:26,998 --> 00:34:28,300
frankly, I think many of us 

967
00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:29,435
would agree they probably 

968
00:34:29,435 --> 00:34:30,335
should be able to now. I wanna 

969
00:34:30,335 --> 00:34:32,838
also. A little bit about the 

970
00:34:32,838 --> 00:34:33,672
constitutionality we’ve talked 

971
00:34:33,672 --> 00:34:34,739
about this once before, but 

972
00:34:34,739 --> 00:34:36,875
it’s worth repeating the case 

973
00:34:36,875 --> 00:34:38,344
that keeps being cited is 

974
00:34:38,344 --> 00:34:40,045
Cleveland and Valley Railroad 

975
00:34:40,045 --> 00:34:41,779
Company versus the state of 

976
00:34:41,779 --> 00:34:45,316
Ohio. in that case, there was a 

977
00:34:45,316 --> 00:34:47,386
statutory. There was an act, a 

978
00:34:47,386 --> 00:34:48,987
bill passed to transfer a piece 

979
00:34:48,987 --> 00:34:51,255
of real estate, The executive 

980
00:34:51,255 --> 00:34:52,858
branch, which is the same way 

981
00:34:52,858 --> 00:34:54,259
we transfer real estate now the 

982
00:34:54,259 --> 00:34:55,427
executive branch transferred 

983
00:34:55,427 --> 00:34:58,363
that real and the legislature 

984
00:34:58,363 --> 00:35:00,866
tried to undo an act via a 

985
00:35:00,866 --> 00:35:04,302
resolution. That’s apples and 

986
00:35:04,302 --> 00:35:07,038
oranges to this scenario. to 

987
00:35:07,038 --> 00:35:10,575
think that somehow. by us using 

988
00:35:10,575 --> 00:35:12,310
a concurrent resolution in this 

989
00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:14,713
case is the same to that case 

990
00:35:14,713 --> 00:35:16,114
is presupposes that everything 

991
00:35:16,114 --> 00:35:18,383
the governor does is a law 

992
00:35:18,383 --> 00:35:20,219
itself and I think we would all 

993
00:35:20,219 --> 00:35:21,720
agree that the only body that 

994
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:23,822
can pass laws is the 

995
00:35:23,822 --> 00:35:25,724
legislature and so it’s apples 

996
00:35:25,724 --> 00:35:27,926
and oranges what the governor 

997
00:35:27,926 --> 00:35:28,693
is doing or the director of 

998
00:35:28,693 --> 00:35:30,295
health is doing in these 

999
00:35:30,295 --> 00:35:31,062
circumstances are not lost. 

1000
00:35:31,062 --> 00:35:33,064
They are orders. They are 

1001
00:35:33,064 --> 00:35:36,401
executive orders and to apply 

1002
00:35:36,401 --> 00:35:38,003
the treatment in that case to 

1003
00:35:38,003 --> 00:35:39,471
this is presupposes presupposes 

1004
00:35:39,471 --> 00:35:41,806
that they are actually laws and 

1005
00:35:41,806 --> 00:35:42,707
it’s worth noting as I pointed 

1006
00:35:42,707 --> 00:35:44,409
out on the concurrent vote, 

1007
00:35:44,409 --> 00:35:45,944
there is actually a piece of 

1008
00:35:45,944 --> 00:35:47,412
that opinion where the Supreme 

1009
00:35:47,412 --> 00:35:49,781
Court acknowledged that had the 

1010
00:35:49,781 --> 00:35:51,216
legislature put in conditions 

1011
00:35:51,216 --> 00:35:52,251
that would have allowed that 

1012
00:35:52,251 --> 00:35:53,818
property to be called back they 

1013
00:35:53,818 --> 00:35:57,889
would have been free to do so. 

1014
00:35:57,889 --> 00:35:59,758
The Supreme Court acknowledged 

1015
00:35:59,758 --> 00:36:00,692
the legislature’s authority to 

1016
00:36:00,692 --> 00:36:03,028
put terms and conditions on 

1017
00:36:03,028 --> 00:36:06,798
laws. and with that I think I 

1018
00:36:06,798 --> 00:36:09,267
again urge override of the 

1019
00:36:09,267 --> 00:36:09,835
governor’s veto. Thank you. 

1020
00:36:09,835 --> 00:36:11,336
Thank you. Senator the chair 

1021
00:36:11,336 --> 00:36:15,808
recognizes Senator Sykes. Thank 

1022
00:36:15,808 --> 00:36:17,409
you mister president ladies and 

1023
00:36:17,409 --> 00:36:21,246
gentlemen. you know this has 

1024
00:36:21,246 --> 00:36:22,747
been a troubling times for us 

1025
00:36:22,747 --> 00:36:25,650
all. I’d like to commend the 

1026
00:36:25,650 --> 00:36:27,852
governor for his courage and 

1027
00:36:27,852 --> 00:36:31,724
his leadership. and you know I 

1028
00:36:31,724 --> 00:36:33,458
don’t question the motives of 

1029
00:36:33,458 --> 00:36:37,229
the majority in this case. in 

1030
00:36:37,229 --> 00:36:39,330
raising some questions, but I 

1031
00:36:39,330 --> 00:36:40,865
think the timing is wrong. 

1032
00:36:40,865 --> 00:36:42,334
We’re right in the middle of 

1033
00:36:42,334 --> 00:36:43,735
this pandemic and I don’t think 

1034
00:36:43,735 --> 00:36:45,403
we should send the wrong signal 

1035
00:36:45,403 --> 00:36:47,405
to the public at large that 

1036
00:36:47,405 --> 00:36:48,073
we’re questioning what the 

1037
00:36:48,073 --> 00:36:51,176
governor. And his executive 

1038
00:36:51,176 --> 00:36:53,746
branch has been doing on our 

1039
00:36:53,746 --> 00:36:57,748
behalf It is important for us 

1040
00:36:57,748 --> 00:36:59,251
at this particular time where 

1041
00:36:59,251 --> 00:37:01,553
we’re under fire and we need to 

1042
00:37:01,553 --> 00:37:04,355
work collaboratively together. 

1043
00:37:04,355 --> 00:37:07,425
to send a strong message that 

1044
00:37:07,425 --> 00:37:09,260
we’re headed in the right 

1045
00:37:09,260 --> 00:37:11,295
direction. He’s leading us into 

1046
00:37:11,295 --> 00:37:13,965
recovery. and I don’t wanna 

1047
00:37:13,965 --> 00:37:17,235
send us to send a mixed signal 

1048
00:37:17,235 --> 00:37:19,804
that he is doing the wrong 

1049
00:37:19,804 --> 00:37:22,307
things. And that’s why I’m 

1050
00:37:22,307 --> 00:37:24,508
asking you not to override the 

1051
00:37:24,508 --> 00:37:27,312
veto. Thank you senator to the 

1052
00:37:27,312 --> 00:37:31,583
chair recognizes Senator Craig. 

1053
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:37,356
Thank you mister president 

1054
00:37:37,356 --> 00:37:38,524
ladies and gentlemen of the 

1055
00:37:38,524 --> 00:37:40,992
Senate. It’s difficult I wanna 

1056
00:37:40,992 --> 00:37:43,694
thank Senator Sykes. He spoke 

1057
00:37:43,694 --> 00:37:45,463
so eloquently to that issue It 

1058
00:37:45,463 --> 00:37:48,733
is this fundamental point of 

1059
00:37:48,733 --> 00:37:51,303
timing. as we look at this 

1060
00:37:51,303 --> 00:37:54,373
issue, but even beyond that it 

1061
00:37:54,373 --> 00:37:57,408
is the question about. saving 

1062
00:37:57,408 --> 00:38:00,712
lives. I continue to be 

1063
00:38:00,712 --> 00:38:02,414
troubled by by this. I 

1064
00:38:02,414 --> 00:38:03,916
certainly appreciate and like 

1065
00:38:03,916 --> 00:38:06,951
him I. That all that serve in 

1066
00:38:06,951 --> 00:38:09,454
this room. care about their 

1067
00:38:09,454 --> 00:38:12,290
families their children and the 

1068
00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:13,392
districts that they represent 

1069
00:38:13,392 --> 00:38:14,959
but here, but here’s what I 

1070
00:38:14,959 --> 00:38:19,297
believe. Given the unique and 

1071
00:38:19,297 --> 00:38:21,733
unprecedented nature of the 

1072
00:38:21,733 --> 00:38:24,302
covid-19 pandemic, it was 

1073
00:38:24,302 --> 00:38:26,238
essential. for the governor and 

1074
00:38:26,238 --> 00:38:28,440
the health director to move 

1075
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,409
quickly and decisively to this 

1076
00:38:31,409 --> 00:38:34,079
issue. with regard to the 

1077
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:36,848
health order to save lives our 

1078
00:38:36,848 --> 00:38:38,049
state government needs to 

1079
00:38:38,049 --> 00:38:40,452
remain prepared to act if we 

1080
00:38:40,452 --> 00:38:42,220
are faced with another 

1081
00:38:42,220 --> 00:38:44,789
inevitable public health crisis 

1082
00:38:44,789 --> 00:38:48,394
and I pray not. But 

1083
00:38:48,394 --> 00:38:51,496
realistically. that’s where we 

1084
00:38:51,496 --> 00:38:54,332
are. Ohio’s current system, 

1085
00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:55,768
which gives the health director 

1086
00:38:55,768 --> 00:38:57,234
and executive branch the 

1087
00:38:57,234 --> 00:38:59,972
authority to respond to public 

1088
00:38:59,972 --> 00:39:02,340
health crisis and protect human 

1089
00:39:02,340 --> 00:39:03,774
lives. It’s consistent with the 

1090
00:39:03,774 --> 00:39:07,412
separation of powers. And 

1091
00:39:07,412 --> 00:39:08,814
fundamentally I need to say for 

1092
00:39:08,814 --> 00:39:11,516
the record that I do believe in 

1093
00:39:11,516 --> 00:39:15,186
the separation of powers, but 

1094
00:39:15,186 --> 00:39:16,921
here’s also the issue. it is 

1095
00:39:16,921 --> 00:39:18,723
the right way to handle such 

1096
00:39:18,723 --> 00:39:21,760
emergency. given the time that 

1097
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,796
we were dealing with this bill, 

1098
00:39:24,796 --> 00:39:26,697
however, would give the 

1099
00:39:26,697 --> 00:39:28,733
legislature the unconscious the 

1100
00:39:28,733 --> 00:39:31,268
the unconscionable 

1101
00:39:31,268 --> 00:39:33,838
unconscionable unconstitutional 

1102
00:39:33,838 --> 00:39:35,107
authority to make laws without 

1103
00:39:35,107 --> 00:39:37,742
having to pass a bill. 

1104
00:39:37,742 --> 00:39:39,043
Committee proponents of this 

1105
00:39:39,043 --> 00:39:40,212
bill say that they were 

1106
00:39:40,212 --> 00:39:41,779
concerned about the impact 

1107
00:39:41,779 --> 00:39:43,814
headquarters. on small 

1108
00:39:43,814 --> 00:39:47,051
businesses. 

1109
00:39:47,284 --> 00:39:51,322
I need to also say likewise our 

1110
00:39:51,322 --> 00:39:53,791
caucus support small businesses 

1111
00:39:53,791 --> 00:39:55,292
categorically they are part of 

1112
00:39:55,292 --> 00:39:56,894
our legislative priorities to 

1113
00:39:56,894 --> 00:39:58,696
improve the lives of our 

1114
00:39:58,696 --> 00:40:00,799
families and children. However, 

1115
00:40:00,799 --> 00:40:02,700
most Ohio and certainly most in 

1116
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:05,704
in in my district. I believe it 

1117
00:40:05,704 --> 00:40:07,271
wasn’t the health order that 

1118
00:40:07,271 --> 00:40:09,840
hurt that hurt businesses It 

1119
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,810
was the pandemic and I know 

1120
00:40:11,810 --> 00:40:14,546
that for some that’s that’s 

1121
00:40:14,546 --> 00:40:16,414
questionable. but I lay that. 

1122
00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:20,786
Us on the table. more than 543. 

1123
00:40:20,786 --> 00:40:22,420
543000 Americans, including 

1124
00:40:22,420 --> 00:40:26,191
about eighteen. 18000. 18300 

1125
00:40:26,191 --> 00:40:28,493
Ohioans, have already died of 

1126
00:40:28,493 --> 00:40:31,496
covid-19. just this week. Ohio 

1127
00:40:31,496 --> 00:40:35,366
hit 1000000 cases. This is not 

1128
00:40:35,366 --> 00:40:36,768
a good time to limit the 

1129
00:40:36,768 --> 00:40:37,736
authority of the state 

1130
00:40:37,736 --> 00:40:42,274
director. I believe that’s as 

1131
00:40:42,274 --> 00:40:44,042
many in my district and 

1132
00:40:44,042 --> 00:40:46,211
throughout the state of Ohio 

1133
00:40:46,211 --> 00:40:48,046
that the actions of doctor 

1134
00:40:48,046 --> 00:40:49,313
Acton at the beginning of the 

1135
00:40:49,313 --> 00:40:52,984
pandemic save lives. It is our 

1136
00:40:52,984 --> 00:40:54,419
belief that if this bill would 

1137
00:40:54,419 --> 00:40:56,788
have been the law 1 year ago, 

1138
00:40:56,788 --> 00:40:59,390
it would have been deleterious 

1139
00:40:59,390 --> 00:41:01,392
to the lives of many ohioans 

1140
00:41:01,392 --> 00:41:02,594
and impede the Department of 

1141
00:41:02,594 --> 00:41:04,062
Health ability to move quickly 

1142
00:41:04,062 --> 00:41:07,733
and decisively to save lives 

1143
00:41:07,733 --> 00:41:09,401
Simply put Ohioans are dying 

1144
00:41:09,401 --> 00:41:13,805
and are. Are hurting the 

1145
00:41:13,805 --> 00:41:16,275
legislature must and we can 

1146
00:41:16,275 --> 00:41:17,141
continue and I believe that we 

1147
00:41:17,141 --> 00:41:20,445
will and must. continue to 

1148
00:41:20,445 --> 00:41:23,282
create a mechanisms that help 

1149
00:41:23,282 --> 00:41:24,882
families, small businesses and 

1150
00:41:24,882 --> 00:41:28,686
communities around Ohio. And 

1151
00:41:28,686 --> 00:41:30,355
not just simply look at the 

1152
00:41:30,355 --> 00:41:32,223
authority of the health 

1153
00:41:32,223 --> 00:41:35,260
director. in the final 

1154
00:41:35,260 --> 00:41:38,463
analysis. I believe our current 

1155
00:41:38,463 --> 00:41:42,734
process well not perfect. Saved 

1156
00:41:42,734 --> 00:41:45,837
countless lives I think it was 

1157
00:41:45,837 --> 00:41:47,038
certainly as we look at the 

1158
00:41:47,038 --> 00:41:49,775
science and the appropriateness 

1159
00:41:49,775 --> 00:41:51,809
of the science and the the 

1160
00:41:51,809 --> 00:41:55,046
medical measures. What’s the 

1161
00:41:55,046 --> 00:41:57,982
proper course of action? So, 

1162
00:41:57,982 --> 00:42:01,052
ladies and gentlemen, Mister 

1163
00:42:01,052 --> 00:42:02,387
President thank you very much 

1164
00:42:02,387 --> 00:42:04,389
for the opportunity to speak on 

1165
00:42:04,389 --> 00:42:05,857
this critical very important 

1166
00:42:05,857 --> 00:42:08,760
issue and I urge you no vote on 

1167
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:09,728
this legislation. Thank you 

1168
00:42:09,728 --> 00:42:11,196
mister President Thank you 

1169
00:42:11,196 --> 00:42:12,930
Senator the chair recognizes 

1170
00:42:12,930 --> 00:42:16,200
leader Yuo. 

1171
00:42:16,268 --> 00:42:18,002
Thank you mister President. 

1172
00:42:18,002 --> 00:42:19,971
I’ll try to be short. you know 

1173
00:42:19,971 --> 00:42:23,875
it’s a year ago March of 2020 

1174
00:42:23,875 --> 00:42:25,877
when we came into this chambers 

1175
00:42:25,877 --> 00:42:27,478
with everything looking a 

1176
00:42:27,478 --> 00:42:29,213
little different if you recall, 

1177
00:42:29,213 --> 00:42:30,782
then Senate President Larry Abs 

1178
00:42:30,782 --> 00:42:33,218
us not to our our traditional 

1179
00:42:33,218 --> 00:42:35,219
suit and tie. he said, because 

1180
00:42:35,219 --> 00:42:36,521
we don’t launder this as often 

1181
00:42:36,521 --> 00:42:37,721
as we might have more casual 

1182
00:42:37,721 --> 00:42:39,723
outfit and he wanted to make 

1183
00:42:39,723 --> 00:42:41,893
sure that we did our part, We 

1184
00:42:41,893 --> 00:42:44,295
did our part to slow down this 

1185
00:42:44,295 --> 00:42:47,465
ongoing pandemic and Did that 

1186
00:42:47,465 --> 00:42:48,833
it was and it was the first 

1187
00:42:48,833 --> 00:42:49,733
time that we began a new 

1188
00:42:49,733 --> 00:42:51,502
seating arrangement here in the 

1189
00:42:51,502 --> 00:42:55,207
Ohio Senate Chambers we we 

1190
00:42:55,207 --> 00:42:56,540
didn’t no longer each occupy 

1191
00:42:56,540 --> 00:42:57,909
our desk that we had been 

1192
00:42:57,909 --> 00:42:59,311
assigned to we we try to have a 

1193
00:42:59,311 --> 00:43:02,747
social distancing apart We 

1194
00:43:02,747 --> 00:43:03,415
encourage everyone to wear a 

1195
00:43:03,415 --> 00:43:04,982
mask didn’t work out so well 

1196
00:43:04,982 --> 00:43:07,218
for us here, but we tried 

1197
00:43:07,218 --> 00:43:08,586
because it was supposedly the 

1198
00:43:08,586 --> 00:43:11,389
right thing to do. it was in 

1199
00:43:11,389 --> 00:43:12,890
the same month a year ago that 

1200
00:43:12,890 --> 00:43:14,792
we shut down businesses 

1201
00:43:14,792 --> 00:43:18,864
restaurants bars barbershops. 

1202
00:43:18,864 --> 00:43:21,299
We had the introduction of zoom 

1203
00:43:21,299 --> 00:43:24,202
meetings. me being a 7 year old 

1204
00:43:24,202 --> 00:43:25,536
guy. I had no idea what a zoom 

1205
00:43:25,536 --> 00:43:27,738
meeting was until about a year 

1206
00:43:27,738 --> 00:43:29,506
ago. Now, I think II live them 

1207
00:43:29,506 --> 00:43:30,941
every single day if I don’t 

1208
00:43:30,941 --> 00:43:32,543
have the ipad in front of me, I 

1209
00:43:32,543 --> 00:43:33,544
think I’m walking in the walls 

1210
00:43:33,544 --> 00:43:35,780
already cuz I’m so used to it 

1211
00:43:35,780 --> 00:43:38,816
We had we had a hand sanitizer 

1212
00:43:38,816 --> 00:43:40,084
except for the ones I passed up 

1213
00:43:40,084 --> 00:43:41,286
by the way a year ago. at the 

1214
00:43:41,286 --> 00:43:42,453
same meeting, I hope some of 

1215
00:43:42,453 --> 00:43:43,788
you still haven’t they are 

1216
00:43:43,788 --> 00:43:46,090
refillable and and and toilet 

1217
00:43:46,090 --> 00:43:48,226
paper shortage. I mean let’s. 

1218
00:43:48,226 --> 00:43:50,094
Well, we talked about in this 

1219
00:43:50,094 --> 00:43:52,897
country, not just in Ohio was 

1220
00:43:52,897 --> 00:43:57,568
real. This was scary. as a as a 

1221
00:43:57,568 --> 00:43:59,803
father as a grandfather, It 

1222
00:43:59,803 --> 00:44:01,806
scared me to pieces it really 

1223
00:44:01,806 --> 00:44:03,008
did. I wanted to make sure we 

1224
00:44:03,008 --> 00:44:04,642
did the right things to ensure 

1225
00:44:04,642 --> 00:44:06,911
that my kids and my 

1226
00:44:06,911 --> 00:44:07,979
grandchildren had the 

1227
00:44:07,979 --> 00:44:09,280
opportunity to live life as 

1228
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,883
I’ve lived it. We’ve had a lot 

1229
00:44:11,883 --> 00:44:13,217
of conversations about the face 

1230
00:44:13,217 --> 00:44:15,052
mask do they work? Do they not 

1231
00:44:15,052 --> 00:44:16,387
work Well? guess what we’re all 

1232
00:44:16,387 --> 00:44:20,625
here. They must work. If they 

1233
00:44:20,625 --> 00:44:21,792
didn’t work, we might not be 

1234
00:44:21,792 --> 00:44:24,262
here we we used to turn on the 

1235
00:44:24,262 --> 00:44:26,130
TV every day for wine with the 

1236
00:44:26,130 --> 00:44:27,865
wine. Remember the catchy 

1237
00:44:27,865 --> 00:44:29,800
phrase having a glass of wine 

1238
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,202
and listen to the statistics 

1239
00:44:31,202 --> 00:44:33,271
every day how many new cases 

1240
00:44:33,271 --> 00:44:34,706
how many people were in the 

1241
00:44:34,706 --> 00:44:36,274
hospital? How many people went 

1242
00:44:36,274 --> 00:44:37,808
to the intensive care unit and 

1243
00:44:37,808 --> 00:44:41,879
sadly how many people died? I 

1244
00:44:41,879 --> 00:44:43,748
think that that one figure 

1245
00:44:43,748 --> 00:44:45,483
alone should be staggering. the 

1246
00:44:45,483 --> 00:44:47,285
numbers are finally going down 

1247
00:44:47,285 --> 00:44:49,620
This is the time we should be 

1248
00:44:49,620 --> 00:44:51,088
living life with anticipation 

1249
00:44:51,088 --> 00:44:53,357
and hope that that we can get 

1250
00:44:53,357 --> 00:44:54,959
over this pandemic. then we’ve 

1251
00:44:54,959 --> 00:44:57,227
got a lot of work to do this 

1252
00:44:57,227 --> 00:44:59,464
work right here is foolish We 

1253
00:44:59,464 --> 00:45:01,331
don’t need to be doing this. I 

1254
00:45:01,331 --> 00:45:03,634
think you know, II think back 

1255
00:45:03,634 --> 00:45:05,770
in my own life when I was 

1256
00:45:05,770 --> 00:45:06,805
diagnosed with a stroke, I 

1257
00:45:06,805 --> 00:45:08,573
listened to the medical experts 

1258
00:45:08,573 --> 00:45:09,774
and I got through it when I got 

1259
00:45:09,774 --> 00:45:12,210
the MS. Hypnosis I listened to 

1260
00:45:12,210 --> 00:45:13,845
the doctors at the Melon Center 

1261
00:45:13,845 --> 00:45:15,246
and I got myself through it 

1262
00:45:15,246 --> 00:45:16,448
when I had throat cancer and I 

1263
00:45:16,448 --> 00:45:17,248
went through the operations and 

1264
00:45:17,248 --> 00:45:20,218
I went through chemo and 

1265
00:45:20,218 --> 00:45:21,853
radiation. I listened to the 

1266
00:45:21,853 --> 00:45:24,556
doctors and guess what I got 

1267
00:45:24,556 --> 00:45:26,123
through it. I’m here. I’m still 

1268
00:45:26,123 --> 00:45:27,658
here folks. I’m gonna encourage 

1269
00:45:27,658 --> 00:45:28,993
you to vote. No on this. This 

1270
00:45:28,993 --> 00:45:31,395
is very important and I hope 

1271
00:45:31,395 --> 00:45:32,230
you take this into 

1272
00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:32,997
consideration. Thank you mister 

1273
00:45:32,997 --> 00:45:35,233
President. Thank you leader 

1274
00:45:35,233 --> 00:45:37,301
Yuko the chair recognizes 

1275
00:45:37,301 --> 00:45:40,638
Senator Johnson. 

1276
00:45:50,748 --> 00:45:54,018
Thank you mister president. 

1277
00:45:54,252 --> 00:45:55,887
You know I’ve I’ve I’ve said 

1278
00:45:55,887 --> 00:45:58,456
this before. as we conducted 

1279
00:45:58,456 --> 00:46:02,193
these debates. I so appreciate 

1280
00:46:02,193 --> 00:46:04,095
the diversity of opinion on 

1281
00:46:04,095 --> 00:46:07,198
this matter and I appreciate 

1282
00:46:07,198 --> 00:46:09,734
the emotion. that’s generated 

1283
00:46:09,734 --> 00:46:13,737
when we speak of the pandemic. 

1284
00:46:13,737 --> 00:46:17,842
and I’m always you know 

1285
00:46:17,842 --> 00:46:19,910
fascinated by how when we talk 

1286
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:22,213
about political issues, the 

1287
00:46:22,213 --> 00:46:25,449
word science is brought up. I 

1288
00:46:25,449 --> 00:46:28,720
have more than a passing 

1289
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:30,521
acquaintance with what science 

1290
00:46:30,521 --> 00:46:35,226
is. You Know I’m I’m I’m 

1291
00:46:35,226 --> 00:46:37,694
blessed because I graduated 

1292
00:46:37,694 --> 00:46:39,264
from Ohio University back in 

1293
00:46:39,264 --> 00:46:40,931
1985 with the history degree. 

1294
00:46:40,931 --> 00:46:43,234
So I have a really, you know 

1295
00:46:43,234 --> 00:46:44,802
good liberal arts education 

1296
00:46:44,802 --> 00:46:48,339
that I’m proud of I changed my 

1297
00:46:48,339 --> 00:46:49,073
career thought process and 

1298
00:46:49,073 --> 00:46:52,243
decided to to take 2 years of. 

1299
00:46:52,243 --> 00:46:55,346
of pre med school with the the 

1300
00:46:55,346 --> 00:46:56,947
the hope to get into medical 

1301
00:46:56,947 --> 00:46:58,949
school After I you know I was 

1302
00:46:58,949 --> 00:47:00,785
in my mid 20s and decided I 

1303
00:47:00,785 --> 00:47:01,952
didn’t wanna go the the the 

1304
00:47:01,952 --> 00:47:03,387
route that I was going and and 

1305
00:47:03,387 --> 00:47:04,955
I sort of you know jump from 

1306
00:47:04,955 --> 00:47:06,023
one extreme to the other and 

1307
00:47:06,023 --> 00:47:09,327
dived into. Science and at that 

1308
00:47:09,327 --> 00:47:11,729
point, I didn’t know for 

1309
00:47:11,729 --> 00:47:13,264
goodness sakes whether or not I 

1310
00:47:13,264 --> 00:47:14,565
could could even pass a 

1311
00:47:14,565 --> 00:47:16,834
science. I hadn’t taken any but 

1312
00:47:16,834 --> 00:47:18,269
I’m one of those rare 

1313
00:47:18,269 --> 00:47:19,904
individuals that actually got 

1314
00:47:19,904 --> 00:47:21,372
A’s and inorganic and chemistry 

1315
00:47:21,372 --> 00:47:23,908
and physics, and it turns out 

1316
00:47:23,908 --> 00:47:26,277
if you work hard at it and and 

1317
00:47:26,277 --> 00:47:28,846
try really hard that you can do 

1318
00:47:28,846 --> 00:47:31,782
well and it also turned out 

1319
00:47:31,782 --> 00:47:32,784
that I enjoyed those those 

1320
00:47:32,784 --> 00:47:34,451
courses and I learned about the 

1321
00:47:34,451 --> 00:47:36,788
scientific method and you know 

1322
00:47:36,788 --> 00:47:38,456
what science what’s not science 

1323
00:47:38,456 --> 00:47:41,224
opinions not. Science is not 

1324
00:47:41,224 --> 00:47:43,694
science scientific method is 

1325
00:47:43,694 --> 00:47:45,696
remarkably simple and it guides 

1326
00:47:45,696 --> 00:47:47,531
the modern world that we live 

1327
00:47:47,531 --> 00:47:49,934
in today. A lot of the things 

1328
00:47:49,934 --> 00:47:52,236
we call science is not really 

1329
00:47:52,236 --> 00:47:53,770
science, so you have to be 

1330
00:47:53,770 --> 00:47:55,005
careful when you when you do 

1331
00:47:55,005 --> 00:47:56,474
this and then you say well 

1332
00:47:56,474 --> 00:47:57,774
wait, we’re talking about a 

1333
00:47:57,774 --> 00:48:00,210
pandemic and well. Hey politics 

1334
00:48:00,210 --> 00:48:01,946
are involved in this too, and 

1335
00:48:01,946 --> 00:48:04,349
you may notice that this great 

1336
00:48:04,349 --> 00:48:05,782
divide this great diversity of 

1337
00:48:05,782 --> 00:48:08,486
opinion we have is pretty much 

1338
00:48:08,486 --> 00:48:10,355
a long party lines. That’s not 

1339
00:48:10,355 --> 00:48:13,557
a coincidence. That’s not 

1340
00:48:13,557 --> 00:48:16,728
science. 

1341
00:48:16,728 --> 00:48:16,761
Govern

1342
00:48:16,761 --> 00:48:20,365
Governor Dewine Governor Dewine 

1343
00:48:20,365 --> 00:48:23,033
really isn’t the focus of this 

1344
00:48:23,033 --> 00:48:28,305
bill at all, not at all. 

1345
00:48:28,305 --> 00:48:28,373
my my 

1346
00:48:28,373 --> 00:48:30,875
my my my my esteemed colleague 

1347
00:48:30,875 --> 00:48:32,210
Senator Mccauley makes the 

1348
00:48:32,210 --> 00:48:35,446
point so well that this is 

1349
00:48:35,446 --> 00:48:37,814
really about. bringing the 

1350
00:48:37,814 --> 00:48:40,518
legislature to the table and 

1351
00:48:40,518 --> 00:48:43,854
giving us a voice and restoring 

1352
00:48:43,854 --> 00:48:44,789
checks and balances. and what 

1353
00:48:44,789 --> 00:48:46,758
do you mean restore well it got 

1354
00:48:46,758 --> 00:48:49,226
out of balance. when did. Out 

1355
00:48:49,226 --> 00:48:53,698
of balance last spring. Who 

1356
00:48:53,698 --> 00:48:56,667
noticed I’ve mentioned Senator 

1357
00:48:56,667 --> 00:48:58,135
Mccauley and I went over to the 

1358
00:48:58,135 --> 00:48:59,737
House of Representatives and 

1359
00:48:59,737 --> 00:49:02,306
did our proponent testimony of 

1360
00:49:02,306 --> 00:49:04,841
our bill over there and I made 

1361
00:49:04,841 --> 00:49:08,378
a point of holding up this 

1362
00:49:08,378 --> 00:49:12,717
notebook. This notebook holds 

1363
00:49:12,717 --> 00:49:16,654
over 300 proponent testimonies. 

1364
00:49:16,654 --> 00:49:18,422
Now, this isn’t the usual 

1365
00:49:18,422 --> 00:49:20,958
flurry of of emails and letters 

1366
00:49:20,958 --> 00:49:22,493
and things like that we get 

1367
00:49:22,493 --> 00:49:26,197
we’ve got those too. These are 

1368
00:49:26,197 --> 00:49:27,030
people that wanted to be heard 

1369
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:29,767
in testimony in favor of this 

1370
00:49:29,767 --> 00:49:33,304
bill who are they. They are 

1371
00:49:33,304 --> 00:49:34,438
people who feel like they have 

1372
00:49:34,438 --> 00:49:37,441
not been heard and have been 

1373
00:49:37,441 --> 00:49:39,744
egregiously harmed by what 

1374
00:49:39,744 --> 00:49:42,146
their state government has done 

1375
00:49:42,146 --> 00:49:43,681
now. What part that we play in 

1376
00:49:43,681 --> 00:49:46,917
that? actually through our 

1377
00:49:46,917 --> 00:49:49,119
inaction because of the way 

1378
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:50,255
things were set up and the way 

1379
00:49:50,255 --> 00:49:52,422
the governor was moving along. 

1380
00:49:52,422 --> 00:49:55,926
our part was to. It happen and 

1381
00:49:55,926 --> 00:49:57,595
people said why don’t you do 

1382
00:49:57,595 --> 00:50:00,197
something? well? now we are 

1383
00:50:00,197 --> 00:50:02,265
doing something but these 300 

1384
00:50:02,265 --> 00:50:04,335
people I challenge the media 

1385
00:50:04,335 --> 00:50:06,270
not to not to do the stories 

1386
00:50:06,270 --> 00:50:08,172
about Terry Johnson or Rob 

1387
00:50:08,172 --> 00:50:10,341
Mccauley or the Senate 

1388
00:50:10,341 --> 00:50:11,742
president or the Speaker of the 

1389
00:50:11,742 --> 00:50:14,244
House. I challenge them to look 

1390
00:50:14,244 --> 00:50:17,348
into these over 300 proponent 

1391
00:50:17,348 --> 00:50:18,983
testimonies and ask those 

1392
00:50:18,983 --> 00:50:21,185
people exactly what happened to 

1393
00:50:21,185 --> 00:50:22,720
you in this last year and 

1394
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:25,723
what’s your opinion and listen. 

1395
00:50:25,723 --> 00:50:27,424
I haven’t done an exhaustive 

1396
00:50:27,424 --> 00:50:30,361
search of what the media has 

1397
00:50:30,361 --> 00:50:33,430
reported on, but I haven’t seen 

1398
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:36,700
anything at all. 

1399
00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:36,768
Crickets 

1400
00:50:36,768 --> 00:50:40,371
Crickets is what I hear it’s 

1401
00:50:40,371 --> 00:50:41,773
spring. The crickets are out 

1402
00:50:41,773 --> 00:50:44,175
there the frogs right I haven’t 

1403
00:50:44,175 --> 00:50:45,810
heard anything about these 300 

1404
00:50:45,810 --> 00:50:48,245
people egregiously harmed. Now. 

1405
00:50:48,245 --> 00:50:51,749
I know that the governor had AA 

1406
00:50:51,749 --> 00:50:53,918
little flurry of letters and in 

1407
00:50:53,918 --> 00:50:56,120
support of his veto. I think it 

1408
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,056
was 22 letters and curiously 

1409
00:50:59,056 --> 00:51:00,257
right before I I walked over 

1410
00:51:00,257 --> 00:51:01,826
here. a constituent called in 

1411
00:51:01,826 --> 00:51:04,395
and said Hey, What’s this 22 

1412
00:51:04,395 --> 00:51:06,096
letters? I don’t see people 

1413
00:51:06,096 --> 00:51:08,132
like me representing those 22 

1414
00:51:08,132 --> 00:51:10,267
letters. I see you know big. 

1415
00:51:10,267 --> 00:51:11,602
Organizations like hospitals 

1416
00:51:11,602 --> 00:51:13,704
and and and people like that, I 

1417
00:51:13,704 --> 00:51:15,472
don’t see people like me and I 

1418
00:51:15,472 --> 00:51:16,907
have to agree with that that 

1419
00:51:16,907 --> 00:51:19,276
constituents since we’ve had 

1420
00:51:19,276 --> 00:51:22,012
seventy-five thoughtful emails 

1421
00:51:22,012 --> 00:51:23,814
come into my office in favor of 

1422
00:51:23,814 --> 00:51:27,852
override. three or four. in 

1423
00:51:27,852 --> 00:51:31,255
favor of not overriding so 

1424
00:51:31,255 --> 00:51:32,423
those folks feel like they need 

1425
00:51:32,423 --> 00:51:33,858
to be heard and again I 

1426
00:51:33,858 --> 00:51:35,492
challenge the media is public 

1427
00:51:35,492 --> 00:51:38,228
record find those 300 

1428
00:51:38,228 --> 00:51:40,164
proponents and and tell their 

1429
00:51:40,164 --> 00:51:45,236
story. Now, 

1430
00:51:45,369 --> 00:51:48,772
As far as who’s the governor, 

1431
00:51:48,772 --> 00:51:49,707
it doesn’t make any difference 

1432
00:51:49,707 --> 00:51:50,708
to me, it doesn’t make any 

1433
00:51:50,708 --> 00:51:51,976
difference to to my joint 

1434
00:51:51,976 --> 00:51:53,510
sponsor. Senator Mccauley, who 

1435
00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:55,980
the governor is but let me just 

1436
00:51:55,980 --> 00:51:59,083
say this. We could have done a 

1437
00:51:59,083 --> 00:52:00,283
whole lot worse through this 

1438
00:52:00,283 --> 00:52:03,221
crisis with other governors 

1439
00:52:03,221 --> 00:52:07,391
there was a there was a. text 

1440
00:52:07,391 --> 00:52:09,927
that sent to me today, my 

1441
00:52:09,927 --> 00:52:11,328
personal personal text account 

1442
00:52:11,328 --> 00:52:13,664
and it was just just a new 

1443
00:52:13,664 --> 00:52:15,233
thing. It’s a it’s a flash and 

1444
00:52:15,233 --> 00:52:17,935
it said a vaccination could be 

1445
00:52:17,935 --> 00:52:21,239
your ticket to freedom soon. 

1446
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,375
Let me read it to you again a 

1447
00:52:24,375 --> 00:52:25,943
vaccination card could be your 

1448
00:52:25,943 --> 00:52:29,813
ticket. To freedom soon, we’re 

1449
00:52:29,813 --> 00:52:31,516
Americans what kind of a ticket 

1450
00:52:31,516 --> 00:52:34,719
do we need to our freedom soon? 

1451
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:35,787
Oh for goodness sakes. That’s 

1452
00:52:35,787 --> 00:52:37,121
what the bill of rights in the 

1453
00:52:37,121 --> 00:52:38,688
US Constitution The Ohio 

1454
00:52:38,688 --> 00:52:39,524
Constitution. If you live in 

1455
00:52:39,524 --> 00:52:40,658
Tennessee, the Tennessee 

1456
00:52:40,658 --> 00:52:43,194
Constitution is for we have 

1457
00:52:43,194 --> 00:52:44,895
rights as Americans and we 

1458
00:52:44,895 --> 00:52:47,131
don’t need a ticket to freedom, 

1459
00:52:47,131 --> 00:52:49,166
but wait what’s happened in the 

1460
00:52:49,166 --> 00:52:52,335
last year So I tracked this 

1461
00:52:52,335 --> 00:52:53,837
down. It was just a like a like 

1462
00:52:53,837 --> 00:52:55,839
a, you know blurb in the news 

1463
00:52:55,839 --> 00:52:58,676
that. Could have linked to it. 

1464
00:52:58,676 --> 00:53:01,445
I tracked it down it tracks 

1465
00:53:01,445 --> 00:53:03,180
down to to to the governor in 

1466
00:53:03,180 --> 00:53:06,383
New Jersey, who is currently 

1467
00:53:06,383 --> 00:53:08,919
considering a passport system. 

1468
00:53:08,919 --> 00:53:10,354
based on whether or not you’ve 

1469
00:53:10,354 --> 00:53:11,789
had a vaccination and you can 

1470
00:53:11,789 --> 00:53:13,590
document it and then various 

1471
00:53:13,590 --> 00:53:16,060
levels of freedom and and and 

1472
00:53:16,060 --> 00:53:18,763
and and and and lesser 

1473
00:53:18,763 --> 00:53:20,931
restrictions depending on your 

1474
00:53:20,931 --> 00:53:24,268
immunity status. 

1475
00:53:24,702 --> 00:53:27,171
In America, Now, if that 

1476
00:53:27,171 --> 00:53:28,539
doesn’t send a chill down your 

1477
00:53:28,539 --> 00:53:30,908
spine. I don’t know what 

1478
00:53:30,908 --> 00:53:33,278
possibly can if you have the 

1479
00:53:33,278 --> 00:53:35,646
right papers. Maybe you can see 

1480
00:53:35,646 --> 00:53:38,949
a movie. 

1481
00:53:41,218 --> 00:53:43,187
And then what constitutes a 

1482
00:53:43,187 --> 00:53:45,323
public health emergency Well 

1483
00:53:45,323 --> 00:53:47,725
you know a year ago, I was 

1484
00:53:47,725 --> 00:53:49,494
pretty clear on that, but now 

1485
00:53:49,494 --> 00:53:51,729
we’re sort of expanding what a 

1486
00:53:51,729 --> 00:53:52,963
public health emergency 

1487
00:53:52,963 --> 00:53:55,699
possibly can be and then you 

1488
00:53:55,699 --> 00:53:58,202
know the whole issue of gun 

1489
00:53:58,202 --> 00:54:00,772
control the president’s 

1490
00:54:00,772 --> 00:54:02,273
President Biden’s Press 

1491
00:54:02,273 --> 00:54:05,510
secretary. you know on February 

1492
00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:07,678
4, said regarding gun 

1493
00:54:07,678 --> 00:54:09,246
registration. Yes, yes. yes. 

1494
00:54:09,246 --> 00:54:12,883
it’s a public health emergency. 

1495
00:54:12,883 --> 00:54:14,451
So say we have a different 

1496
00:54:14,451 --> 00:54:17,755
governor in 4 years. a 

1497
00:54:17,755 --> 00:54:19,390
different governor in 8 years 

1498
00:54:19,390 --> 00:54:21,692
and another crisis comes up or 

1499
00:54:21,692 --> 00:54:22,993
is it really a public health 

1500
00:54:22,993 --> 00:54:24,862
emergency? I wouldn’t consider 

1501
00:54:24,862 --> 00:54:26,463
gun registration a public 

1502
00:54:26,463 --> 00:54:28,999
health emergency. I’m a 

1503
00:54:28,999 --> 00:54:32,303
physician. And let me tell you 

1504
00:54:32,303 --> 00:54:35,205
this after being a physician 

1505
00:54:35,205 --> 00:54:38,708
for 30 years now. I’ve 

1506
00:54:38,708 --> 00:54:40,878
dedicated my entire life in 

1507
00:54:40,878 --> 00:54:44,315
this career. every every ounce 

1508
00:54:44,315 --> 00:54:46,084
of my energy goes to my 

1509
00:54:46,084 --> 00:54:47,418
patients. I want nothing that 

1510
00:54:47,418 --> 00:54:49,019
was it’s gonna harm my patients 

1511
00:54:49,019 --> 00:54:52,489
nothing. and I have a great 

1512
00:54:52,489 --> 00:54:56,226
difference of opinion. with 

1513
00:54:56,226 --> 00:55:00,497
people who think that. 

1514
00:55:00,730 --> 00:55:04,335
People who think that. doing 

1515
00:55:04,335 --> 00:55:05,837
anything differently than we’ve 

1516
00:55:05,837 --> 00:55:08,206
done the last year is somehow 

1517
00:55:08,206 --> 00:55:11,208
in a in a front to our governor 

1518
00:55:11,208 --> 00:55:12,376
I have respect for our 

1519
00:55:12,376 --> 00:55:14,378
leadership in Ohio Great 

1520
00:55:14,378 --> 00:55:18,282
respect you don’t see me doing 

1521
00:55:18,282 --> 00:55:20,317
interviews with papers all over 

1522
00:55:20,317 --> 00:55:23,687
all over the state decrying his 

1523
00:55:23,687 --> 00:55:24,856
actions. I’ve turned down. I 

1524
00:55:24,856 --> 00:55:26,423
can’t tell you how many 

1525
00:55:26,423 --> 00:55:28,826
interviews I’ve kept my focus 

1526
00:55:28,826 --> 00:55:32,130
on the work. 

1527
00:55:32,396 --> 00:55:34,732
As far as whether or not the 

1528
00:55:34,732 --> 00:55:36,401
governor can act in an agile 

1529
00:55:36,401 --> 00:55:37,801
fashion to an emergency, 

1530
00:55:37,801 --> 00:55:40,537
nothing in this bill changes 

1531
00:55:40,537 --> 00:55:43,807
that. have we gone back at the 

1532
00:55:43,807 --> 00:55:45,275
beginning of this crisis, and 

1533
00:55:45,275 --> 00:55:46,144
this bill been in place, he 

1534
00:55:46,144 --> 00:55:48,413
could have acted exactly as he 

1535
00:55:48,413 --> 00:55:50,415
did and had plenty of time to 

1536
00:55:50,415 --> 00:55:54,252
do it. That he would have been 

1537
00:55:54,252 --> 00:55:57,621
accountable. very accountable. 

1538
00:55:57,621 --> 00:56:00,024
to the legislature as we’re 

1539
00:56:00,024 --> 00:56:01,625
accountable to him. when things 

1540
00:56:01,625 --> 00:56:04,728
are balanced as far as the 

1541
00:56:04,728 --> 00:56:06,764
public health system, you know 

1542
00:56:06,764 --> 00:56:10,201
public health. entities across 

1543
00:56:10,201 --> 00:56:11,235
Ohio can still still do what 

1544
00:56:11,235 --> 00:56:13,137
they do under this bill they 

1545
00:56:13,137 --> 00:56:15,740
can still do what they do under 

1546
00:56:15,740 --> 00:56:19,810
this bill quarantine isolation. 

1547
00:56:19,810 --> 00:56:21,344
we expect quarantine and 

1548
00:56:21,344 --> 00:56:22,812
isolation to be respected for 

1549
00:56:22,812 --> 00:56:24,048
the medical terminology that 

1550
00:56:24,048 --> 00:56:27,819
they are so. Can’t quarantine a 

1551
00:56:27,819 --> 00:56:31,288
state based on someone possibly 

1552
00:56:31,288 --> 00:56:32,924
being sick and you can’t 

1553
00:56:32,924 --> 00:56:35,358
isolate people who aren’t sick 

1554
00:56:35,358 --> 00:56:37,161
and then the medical diagnosis. 

1555
00:56:37,161 --> 00:56:38,595
I know that the governor’s 

1556
00:56:38,595 --> 00:56:39,530
letter talked about well if we 

1557
00:56:39,530 --> 00:56:40,964
had to wait 5 days, you can 

1558
00:56:40,964 --> 00:56:43,300
make a medical diagnosis 

1559
00:56:43,300 --> 00:56:45,703
without getting the test result 

1560
00:56:45,703 --> 00:56:47,772
back and you can quarantine. 

1561
00:56:47,772 --> 00:56:49,907
you know, let’s say someone one 

1562
00:56:49,907 --> 00:56:51,374
of the things that was in the 

1563
00:56:51,374 --> 00:56:52,076
letter well, gosh these 

1564
00:56:52,076 --> 00:56:54,344
students came back from Wuhan 

1565
00:56:54,344 --> 00:56:57,047
Province in China and had. Bill 

1566
00:56:57,047 --> 00:56:59,382
been in effect, you know we 

1567
00:56:59,382 --> 00:57:00,818
couldn’t have quarantine well, 

1568
00:57:00,818 --> 00:57:03,254
of course you could. 

1569
00:57:03,254 --> 00:57:05,022
Absolutely, you could they’re 

1570
00:57:05,022 --> 00:57:07,391
coming from Wuhan China. That’s 

1571
00:57:07,391 --> 00:57:08,925
where the Wuhan virus came from 

1572
00:57:08,925 --> 00:57:11,328
and we called it Wuhan virus 

1573
00:57:11,328 --> 00:57:12,696
until all of a sudden it was 

1574
00:57:12,696 --> 00:57:13,965
politically incorrect to call 

1575
00:57:13,965 --> 00:57:16,300
it. Wuhan virus We always named 

1576
00:57:16,300 --> 00:57:17,735
viruses by where they originate 

1577
00:57:17,735 --> 00:57:19,303
from. and now we don’t even do 

1578
00:57:19,303 --> 00:57:21,773
that because of this political 

1579
00:57:21,773 --> 00:57:23,040
correctness that entered into 

1580
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,641
the process. That’s the 

1581
00:57:24,641 --> 00:57:25,810
politics part. That’s the 

1582
00:57:25,810 --> 00:57:28,212
emotional part. That’s the 

1583
00:57:28,212 --> 00:57:30,214
unscientific part and we all 

1584
00:57:30,214 --> 00:57:35,253
got swept up in it. All of us. 

1585
00:57:35,253 --> 00:57:39,623
Hey, don’t get me started. 

1586
00:57:39,623 --> 00:57:39,724
The govern

1587
00:57:39,724 --> 00:57:41,325
The governor could could have 

1588
00:57:41,325 --> 00:57:44,996
acted and decisively. and today 

1589
00:57:44,996 --> 00:57:46,597
if we do indeed override in 

1590
00:57:46,597 --> 00:57:48,732
both houses and this bill takes 

1591
00:57:48,732 --> 00:57:51,235
effect, he can still act 

1592
00:57:51,235 --> 00:57:52,803
decisively swiftly and we can 

1593
00:57:52,803 --> 00:57:55,306
rest assured that he has our 

1594
00:57:55,306 --> 00:57:56,273
best interest at heart because 

1595
00:57:56,273 --> 00:57:59,409
I believe that. it’s not 

1596
00:57:59,409 --> 00:58:02,546
dangerous. It’s a good bill It 

1597
00:58:02,546 --> 00:58:04,014
does exactly what is purported 

1598
00:58:04,014 --> 00:58:06,650
to do and I would strongly 

1599
00:58:06,650 --> 00:58:08,786
suggest that before we enter 

1600
00:58:08,786 --> 00:58:10,420
these discussions about what 

1601
00:58:10,420 --> 00:58:11,188
this bill does and what it 

1602
00:58:11,188 --> 00:58:14,758
doesn’t do. The dog on thing 

1603
00:58:14,758 --> 00:58:16,026
because a lot of the arguments 

1604
00:58:16,026 --> 00:58:18,428
I’ve heard today would vaporize 

1605
00:58:18,428 --> 00:58:21,765
right before your very eyes. 

1606
00:58:21,765 --> 00:58:23,233
Thank you, Senator the chair 

1607
00:58:23,233 --> 00:58:28,539
recognizes Senator Thomas. 

1608
00:58:37,381 --> 00:58:39,315
I wasn’t gonna speak again, but 

1609
00:58:39,315 --> 00:58:43,520
I have to. Comment on my dear 

1610
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,357
friend Senator Rogers on the 

1611
00:58:46,357 --> 00:58:49,426
comments he made as well as 

1612
00:58:49,426 --> 00:58:51,261
well as Senator Mccullough. 

1613
00:58:51,261 --> 00:58:55,699
first of all. I understand that 

1614
00:58:55,699 --> 00:58:58,234
300 individuals that you have 

1615
00:58:58,234 --> 00:59:01,338
in your binder there that have 

1616
00:59:01,338 --> 00:59:03,741
been egregiously harmed. But 

1617
00:59:03,741 --> 00:59:05,309
what I have to say to you is 

1618
00:59:05,309 --> 00:59:08,879
that they’re still breathing. 

1619
00:59:08,879 --> 00:59:12,282
We’ve got 18000 families. who 

1620
00:59:12,282 --> 00:59:15,218
have been egregiously harmed. 

1621
00:59:15,218 --> 00:59:17,521
And their family members aren’t 

1622
00:59:17,521 --> 00:59:24,995
breathing. We got over 500000. 

1623
00:59:25,395 --> 00:59:27,765
Egregiously harmed families and 

1624
00:59:27,765 --> 00:59:29,967
they are not breathing. their 

1625
00:59:29,967 --> 00:59:34,739
loved ones. So let’s 

1626
00:59:34,739 --> 00:59:37,007
hypothetically look at this I 

1627
00:59:37,007 --> 00:59:40,677
know we say the governor. can 

1628
00:59:40,677 --> 00:59:42,379
do make his decision 

1629
00:59:42,379 --> 00:59:44,081
immediately right away and I 

1630
00:59:44,081 --> 00:59:46,217
agree with that. but let’s take 

1631
00:59:46,217 --> 00:59:49,086
it a step further. shortly 

1632
00:59:49,086 --> 00:59:53,457
thereafter. Someone is part of 

1633
00:59:53,457 --> 00:59:56,293
a committee the group can 

1634
00:59:56,293 --> 00:59:57,561
decide what we don’t like what 

1635
00:59:57,561 --> 00:59:59,796
the governor said decided to do 

1636
00:59:59,796 --> 01:00:03,000
and we are going to resent 

1637
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,937
that. am I correct. Okay, Well, 

1638
01:00:06,937 --> 01:00:09,372
the fact of the matter is you 

1639
01:00:09,372 --> 01:00:12,142
have the authority? to change 

1640
01:00:12,142 --> 01:00:16,179
the governor’s decision. I 

1641
01:00:16,179 --> 01:00:17,114
believe that’s what the Bible 

1642
01:00:17,114 --> 01:00:19,182
says Y’all correct me. I’m 

1643
01:00:19,182 --> 01:00:20,550
wrong. I think everybody agrees 

1644
01:00:20,550 --> 01:00:22,019
with that. This is why this 

1645
01:00:22,019 --> 01:00:24,721
argument is taking forth. We’re 

1646
01:00:24,721 --> 01:00:28,325
changing a decision that was 

1647
01:00:28,325 --> 01:00:33,196
put in place. If that decision 

1648
01:00:33,196 --> 01:00:36,700
is changed. And the governor 

1649
01:00:36,700 --> 01:00:38,801
says shelter in place and close 

1650
01:00:38,801 --> 01:00:41,238
the close the bars and all 

1651
01:00:41,238 --> 01:00:44,274
these things and then. Our 

1652
01:00:44,274 --> 01:00:47,310
legislators. he saw it through 

1653
01:00:47,310 --> 01:00:48,779
committee or whatever to say 

1654
01:00:48,779 --> 01:00:52,315
no, the bars can stay open. 

1655
01:00:52,315 --> 01:00:53,751
Then what’s the message is 

1656
01:00:53,751 --> 01:00:55,519
gonna be coming out of 

1657
01:00:55,519 --> 01:00:58,388
Columbus. What are the people 

1658
01:00:58,388 --> 01:01:01,792
gonna turn to for guidance? I 

1659
01:01:01,792 --> 01:01:03,994
relied on the governor every 

1660
01:01:03,994 --> 01:01:07,497
day. along with Doctor Acton to 

1661
01:01:07,497 --> 01:01:10,800
give guidance. during this 

1662
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:11,936
pandemic, just the average 

1663
01:01:11,936 --> 01:01:17,741
family. relied on that. so if 

1664
01:01:17,741 --> 01:01:20,310
that is the case. what does it 

1665
01:01:20,310 --> 01:01:23,647
look like? after the decision 

1666
01:01:23,647 --> 01:01:27,384
has been made to change the 

1667
01:01:27,384 --> 01:01:29,619
governor’s decision who speaks 

1668
01:01:29,619 --> 01:01:33,290
on behalf of. State house is it 

1669
01:01:33,290 --> 01:01:35,759
the members is it the committee 

1670
01:01:35,759 --> 01:01:37,261
the governorship would not 

1671
01:01:37,261 --> 01:01:39,663
speak because he didn’t have 

1672
01:01:39,663 --> 01:01:40,731
the authority anymore. You’ve 

1673
01:01:40,731 --> 01:01:42,399
taken it away from him in in so 

1674
01:01:42,399 --> 01:01:45,335
many words. so I’m trying to 

1675
01:01:45,335 --> 01:01:47,905
look forward going forward. who 

1676
01:01:47,905 --> 01:01:49,539
does the speaking so when I’m 

1677
01:01:49,539 --> 01:01:51,341
sitting in front of my TV in my 

1678
01:01:51,341 --> 01:01:54,444
living room. Reading about more 

1679
01:01:54,444 --> 01:01:57,147
people dying Who do I listen 

1680
01:01:57,147 --> 01:02:01,150
to? That’s the kind of concerns 

1681
01:02:01,150 --> 01:02:02,986
that not only do I have, but 

1682
01:02:02,986 --> 01:02:05,856
many have because you’ve got an 

1683
01:02:05,856 --> 01:02:07,991
inconsistent message coming 

1684
01:02:07,991 --> 01:02:11,128
from the. Individuals that we 

1685
01:02:11,128 --> 01:02:12,762
put in place that we expect to 

1686
01:02:12,762 --> 01:02:14,131
make that decision and that’s 

1687
01:02:14,131 --> 01:02:15,065
the administration of the 

1688
01:02:15,065 --> 01:02:17,467
government. That’s the governor 

1689
01:02:17,467 --> 01:02:19,436
and the Department of Health, 

1690
01:02:19,436 --> 01:02:21,238
so I just wanna throw that out 

1691
01:02:21,238 --> 01:02:23,373
there as food for thought and 

1692
01:02:23,373 --> 01:02:25,876
hope that my colleagues will 

1693
01:02:25,876 --> 01:02:29,278
reject this opportunity. Thank 

1694
01:02:29,278 --> 01:02:30,280
you Senator. The question is 

1695
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:31,282
shall the bill pass not 

1696
01:02:31,282 --> 01:02:32,549
withstanding the objections of 

1697
01:02:32,549 --> 01:02:34,251
the governor. The clerk will 

1698
01:02:34,251 --> 01:02:37,454
call the roll. 

1699
01:02:39,356 --> 01:02:44,261
And to Antonio, blessing 

1700
01:02:44,261 --> 01:02:54,204
Brenner, sereno. Dolan Better 

1701
01:02:54,204 --> 01:03:01,277
gav Hackett Colin Yes, Potting 

1702
01:03:01,277 --> 01:03:04,781
Steve Huffman. Johnson, Yes, 

1703
01:03:04,781 --> 01:03:10,220
Kenzie. lang Yes Maher. 

1704
01:03:10,220 --> 01:03:15,926
Manning. Mccauley Yes, O’brien 

1705
01:03:15,926 --> 01:03:22,966
Peterson. reineke. Ro ro. 

1706
01:03:23,767 --> 01:03:29,806
Schaefer she. Sykes. Thomas 

1707
01:03:29,806 --> 01:03:35,746
Williams, Wilson yes. you go. 

1708
01:03:35,746 --> 01:03:40,684
Matt Huffman Yes. 

1709
01:03:40,784 --> 01:03:43,287
With 23 years in 10 days the 

1710
01:03:43,287 --> 01:03:44,822
bill having received the 

1711
01:03:44,822 --> 01:03:45,655
required constitutional 

1712
01:03:45,655 --> 01:03:47,624
majority passes not 

1713
01:03:47,624 --> 01:03:49,359
withstanding the objections of 

1714
01:03:49,359 --> 01:03:51,428
the Governor House amendments 

1715
01:03:51,428 --> 01:03:53,363
to Senate bills and resolutions 

1716
01:03:53,363 --> 01:03:54,764
substitute Senate Bill number 

1717
01:03:54,764 --> 01:03:57,067
seven Rocher and others to an 

1718
01:03:57,067 --> 01:03:58,401
excellent of the code to enter 

1719
01:03:58,401 --> 01:04:00,837
into the occupational therapy 

1720
01:04:00,837 --> 01:04:03,272
Licensure compact The question 

1721
01:04:03,272 --> 01:04:04,708
is shall the Senate concur 

1722
01:04:04,708 --> 01:04:05,275
In-house amendments to 

1723
01:04:05,275 --> 01:04:07,277
substitute Senate Bill number 

1724
01:04:07,277 --> 01:04:08,478
seven. The chair recognizes 

1725
01:04:08,478 --> 01:04:09,278
Senator Rocher Thank you 

1726
01:04:09,278 --> 01:04:11,882
mister. So as you all recall, 

1727
01:04:11,882 --> 01:04:13,217
Senate Bill seven would join 

1728
01:04:13,217 --> 01:04:14,885
Ohio to the occupational 

1729
01:04:14,885 --> 01:04:18,288
therapy licensure compact we 

1730
01:04:18,288 --> 01:04:18,822
would be one of the first ten 

1731
01:04:18,822 --> 01:04:20,657
states to join this compact. it 

1732
01:04:20,657 --> 01:04:23,026
passed the Senate back on 

1733
01:04:23,026 --> 01:04:24,527
February 3rd, a vote of 32 to 

1734
01:04:24,527 --> 01:04:26,429
nothing. I went over to the 

1735
01:04:26,429 --> 01:04:28,499
house where they did make one 

1736
01:04:28,499 --> 01:04:30,533
amendment, which I’m gonna 

1737
01:04:30,533 --> 01:04:32,002
mention today that this is 

1738
01:04:32,002 --> 01:04:33,469
simply permits the board and 

1739
01:04:33,469 --> 01:04:35,205
the board is the occupational 

1740
01:04:35,205 --> 01:04:36,406
therapy the physical therapy 

1741
01:04:36,406 --> 01:04:38,708
and athletic trainers Board to 

1742
01:04:38,708 --> 01:04:40,410
contract with the Ohio 

1743
01:04:40,410 --> 01:04:43,246
Occupational. Association for 

1744
01:04:43,246 --> 01:04:45,949
Assistance in duties related to 

1745
01:04:45,949 --> 01:04:47,350
the continuing education 

1746
01:04:47,350 --> 01:04:49,853
requirements for occupational 

1747
01:04:49,853 --> 01:04:53,256
therapists. at pass the house 

1748
01:04:53,256 --> 01:04:55,392
on March 17th with a vote of 

1749
01:04:55,392 --> 01:04:58,762
ninety-five to two I would like 

1750
01:04:58,762 --> 01:05:01,865
to thank my aid in my office, 

1751
01:05:01,865 --> 01:05:03,299
Ryan Coss as well as chair 

1752
01:05:03,299 --> 01:05:06,770
Hoffman. the health committee, 

1753
01:05:06,770 --> 01:05:08,405
the as well as Tara Lips the 

1754
01:05:08,405 --> 01:05:09,306
health committee over in the 

1755
01:05:09,306 --> 01:05:10,173
house and you mister president 

1756
01:05:10,173 --> 01:05:11,408
for bringing it up for a vote 

1757
01:05:11,408 --> 01:05:12,409
again today and I do urge 

1758
01:05:12,409 --> 01:05:15,578
concur. 

1759
01:05:15,813 --> 01:05:18,281
The question is shall the 

1760
01:05:18,281 --> 01:05:19,783
Senate concur In-house 

1761
01:05:19,783 --> 01:05:20,884
amendments to substitute Senate 

1762
01:05:20,884 --> 01:05:23,286
Bill seven the clerk will call 

1763
01:05:23,286 --> 01:05:29,793
the roll. And Tony. 

1764
01:05:30,260 --> 01:05:34,631
Antonio Blessing Brenner sereno 

1765
01:05:34,631 --> 01:05:41,271
Craig Dolan Febron Hackett 

1766
01:05:41,271 --> 01:05:44,908
Hoagland Yes, ottinger Steve 

1767
01:05:44,908 --> 01:05:49,246
Huffman Johnson Kenzie. Lang 

1768
01:05:49,246 --> 01:05:55,719
Yes, Maa Manny Mccauley. 

1769
01:05:55,719 --> 01:05:59,655
O’brien Peterson. 

1770
01:06:01,725 --> 01:06:08,732
Rou Schaefer Sherry Sykes 

1771
01:06:08,732 --> 01:06:15,839
Thomas Williams Wilson yuo Matt 

1772
01:06:15,839 --> 01:06:19,776
Huffman Yes. With 33 days and 

1773
01:06:19,776 --> 01:06:21,779
zero nays, the Senate does 

1774
01:06:21,779 --> 01:06:23,781
concur In-house amendments to 

1775
01:06:23,781 --> 01:06:24,348
substitute Senate bill number 

1776
01:06:24,348 --> 01:06:27,417
seven. 

1777
01:06:30,820 --> 01:06:31,554
My scripts as you read the 

1778
01:06:31,554 --> 01:06:34,691
title. 

1779
01:06:38,662 --> 01:06:41,231
Bills for their consideration, 

1780
01:06:41,231 --> 01:06:43,766
amended, I’m sorry Bill 

1781
01:06:43,766 --> 01:06:45,235
consideration amended 

1782
01:06:45,235 --> 01:06:46,569
substitute House Bill 128 

1783
01:06:46,569 --> 01:06:47,871
representative of hoops and 

1784
01:06:47,871 --> 01:06:49,705
others to amend sections the 

1785
01:06:49,705 --> 01:06:52,008
revised code. to make changes 

1786
01:06:52,008 --> 01:06:53,277
regarding the electric utility 

1787
01:06:53,277 --> 01:06:54,944
service law to repeal certain 

1788
01:06:54,944 --> 01:06:56,246
provisions of and limit solar 

1789
01:06:56,246 --> 01:06:58,448
resources The credit payment 

1790
01:06:58,448 --> 01:06:59,916
provisions of House Bill six of 

1791
01:06:59,916 --> 01:07:00,750
the 130 third General Assembly 

1792
01:07:00,750 --> 01:07:02,819
to provide refunds to retail 

1793
01:07:02,819 --> 01:07:03,854
electric customers in the 

1794
01:07:03,854 --> 01:07:05,321
state. The question is shall 

1795
01:07:05,321 --> 01:07:06,857
the bill pass the chair 

1796
01:07:06,857 --> 01:07:07,691
recognizes Senator Peterson. 

1797
01:07:07,691 --> 01:07:09,726
Thank you mister president. 

1798
01:07:09,726 --> 01:07:11,328
It’s my pleasure to stand in 

1799
01:07:11,328 --> 01:07:13,997
support of a substitute Senate 

1800
01:07:13,997 --> 01:07:17,199
Bill number 128. This is a bill 

1801
01:07:17,199 --> 01:07:18,835
brought to us by representative 

1802
01:07:18,835 --> 01:07:19,670
Hoops and Representative Stein. 

1803
01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:21,571
It may look very familiar to 

1804
01:07:21,571 --> 01:07:25,541
you because it is almost 

1805
01:07:25,541 --> 01:07:27,377
exactly the same as Senate Bill 

1806
01:07:27,377 --> 01:07:29,646
Ten and Sanibel forty-four the 

1807
01:07:29,646 --> 01:07:31,381
only decoupage and significant 

1808
01:07:31,381 --> 01:07:33,283
excessive earnings taxes that 

1809
01:07:33,283 --> 01:07:35,385
passed out of this chamber 

1810
01:07:35,385 --> 01:07:36,820
unanimously just a few weeks 

1811
01:07:36,820 --> 01:07:40,790
ago there. Few small changes 

1812
01:07:40,790 --> 01:07:42,992
other than the exact language 

1813
01:07:42,992 --> 01:07:44,294
it was in Senate Bill ten the 

1814
01:07:44,294 --> 01:07:45,929
Senate bill forty-four it does 

1815
01:07:45,929 --> 01:07:47,397
create funding for the Ohio Air 

1816
01:07:47,397 --> 01:07:50,867
Quality Development Board. 

1817
01:07:50,867 --> 01:07:52,302
create funding that we that we 

1818
01:07:52,302 --> 01:07:55,337
required them to do last year 

1819
01:07:55,337 --> 01:07:56,940
in legislation so very 

1820
01:07:56,940 --> 01:07:58,208
necessary to include that 

1821
01:07:58,208 --> 01:08:01,779
funding piece we also. this 

1822
01:08:01,779 --> 01:08:04,314
requires a study by the Ohio 

1823
01:08:04,314 --> 01:08:05,949
Power Signing Board working 

1824
01:08:05,949 --> 01:08:07,550
with Jobs, Ohio and PJ m to 

1825
01:08:07,550 --> 01:08:10,353
report on. Transmission costs 

1826
01:08:10,353 --> 01:08:12,722
and what those factors may be 

1827
01:08:12,722 --> 01:08:14,357
so those are the two 

1828
01:08:14,357 --> 01:08:15,092
significant changes hired 

1829
01:08:15,092 --> 01:08:17,294
support of the bill and I 

1830
01:08:17,294 --> 01:08:18,828
encourage you yes, but thank 

1831
01:08:18,828 --> 01:08:20,798
you, Senator the chair 

1832
01:08:20,798 --> 01:08:22,265
recognizes Senator Williams. 

1833
01:08:22,265 --> 01:08:24,000
Thank you mister president and 

1834
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,268
members of the Senate I rise 

1835
01:08:25,268 --> 01:08:27,804
today to let you all know that 

1836
01:08:27,804 --> 01:08:29,439
the Senate is in full support 

1837
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,808
of the passage of House Bill 

1838
01:08:31,808 --> 01:08:34,377
128 We are in strong support of 

1839
01:08:34,377 --> 01:08:37,114
the full passage of or repeal 

1840
01:08:37,114 --> 01:08:38,882
of House bill six, just like 

1841
01:08:38,882 --> 01:08:40,250
many other citizens in this 

1842
01:08:40,250 --> 01:08:43,285
state advocates. Repeals such 

1843
01:08:43,285 --> 01:08:45,321
as the Ohio Environmental 

1844
01:08:45,321 --> 01:08:46,523
Council, would like it to be 

1845
01:08:46,523 --> 01:08:49,058
known that House bill 128 is 

1846
01:08:49,058 --> 01:08:51,260
not a full repeal of house bill 

1847
01:08:51,260 --> 01:08:52,796
six, and it should not be 

1848
01:08:52,796 --> 01:08:55,531
touted as such House Bill six 

1849
01:08:55,531 --> 01:08:57,066
has some very good provisions 

1850
01:08:57,066 --> 01:08:58,368
in it, but in order to ensure 

1851
01:08:58,368 --> 01:09:01,771
that Ohioans trust the process. 

1852
01:09:01,771 --> 01:09:03,305
those provisions in House bill 

1853
01:09:03,305 --> 01:09:04,808
six all of it should be 

1854
01:09:04,808 --> 01:09:07,477
repealed and replaced. so we 

1855
01:09:07,477 --> 01:09:08,278
will support the bill today, 

1856
01:09:08,278 --> 01:09:09,446
but we will continue to 

1857
01:09:09,446 --> 01:09:11,781
advocate for a full repeal. You 

1858
01:09:11,781 --> 01:09:15,384
thank you Senator. The question 

1859
01:09:15,384 --> 01:09:17,721
is shall the bill pass the 

1860
01:09:17,721 --> 01:09:20,957
clerk will call the roll. 

1861
01:09:21,290 --> 01:09:27,230
Antonio Or and I’m sorry. 

1862
01:09:27,230 --> 01:09:30,466
Antonio. 

1863
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:36,206
Blessing Brenner sereno Craig 

1864
01:09:36,206 --> 01:09:39,209
Nolan 

1865
01:09:39,209 --> 01:09:39,242
Gab 

1866
01:09:39,242 --> 01:09:43,846
Gab packet hoagland cottingham 

1867
01:09:43,846 --> 01:09:47,850
Steve Huffman Johnson. cosy 

1868
01:09:47,850 --> 01:09:54,190
lang Maa man. mcculley O’brien 

1869
01:09:54,190 --> 01:09:58,995
Peterson Reineke 

1870
01:09:59,261 --> 01:10:04,867
Roku. Schaeffer she Sykes 

1871
01:10:04,867 --> 01:10:11,407
Thomas. Williams. Wilson Yuo 

1872
01:10:11,407 --> 01:10:14,677
Matt Huffman 

1873
01:10:16,312 --> 01:10:18,982
With 33 years in 0 days, the 

1874
01:10:18,982 --> 01:10:21,383
bill is passed and entitled a 

1875
01:10:21,383 --> 01:10:22,885
bill to amend sections of the 

1876
01:10:22,885 --> 01:10:24,754
code to make changes regarding 

1877
01:10:24,754 --> 01:10:25,921
an electric utility service law 

1878
01:10:25,921 --> 01:10:27,890
to repeal certain provisions of 

1879
01:10:27,890 --> 01:10:29,692
and limit to resources the 

1880
01:10:29,692 --> 01:10:30,360
credit payment and provisions 

1881
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,028
of House Bill six was the 130 

1882
01:10:32,028 --> 01:10:33,429
third General assembly and 

1883
01:10:33,429 --> 01:10:36,366
provide refunds to electric 

1884
01:10:36,366 --> 01:10:38,801
customers in the state. The 

1885
01:10:38,801 --> 01:10:40,636
question is shall the title be 

1886
01:10:40,636 --> 01:10:43,206
agreed to. Any member would 

1887
01:10:43,206 --> 01:10:44,374
like to add their name to the 

1888
01:10:44,374 --> 01:10:48,611
title. Please do so now. 

1889
01:11:15,271 --> 01:11:17,107
The title is agreed to bills 

1890
01:11:17,107 --> 01:11:20,276
for consideration substitutes 

1891
01:11:20,276 --> 01:11:22,779
Annabelle 111 senators, Brenner 

1892
01:11:22,779 --> 01:11:23,546
and others to provide 

1893
01:11:23,546 --> 01:11:24,847
assistance to schools and other 

1894
01:11:24,847 --> 01:11:25,882
entities in response to the 

1895
01:11:25,882 --> 01:11:27,783
covid-19 pandemic and to make 

1896
01:11:27,783 --> 01:11:29,152
an appropriation. The question 

1897
01:11:29,152 --> 01:11:30,754
is shall the bill pass the 

1898
01:11:30,754 --> 01:11:32,255
chair recognizes Senator 

1899
01:11:32,255 --> 01:11:35,758
blessing. Thank you mister 

1900
01:11:35,758 --> 01:11:38,695
President I stand in support of 

1901
01:11:38,695 --> 01:11:40,229
substitute Senate Bill 111 

1902
01:11:40,229 --> 01:11:42,365
today It’s really only seven 

1903
01:11:42,365 --> 01:11:43,767
points that I wanna make with 

1904
01:11:43,767 --> 01:11:45,367
this. The first is that it 

1905
01:11:45,367 --> 01:11:48,304
appropriates 683. 683.1. 

1906
01:11:48,304 --> 01:11:51,607
$683.1000000 of Esser $2 to 

1907
01:11:51,607 --> 01:11:53,276
directly to public school 

1908
01:11:53,276 --> 01:11:54,977
districts. 154 point. 

1909
01:11:54,977 --> 01:11:56,312
154-8000-000. $154.8000000 of 

1910
01:11:56,312 --> 01:11:59,082
gear dollars to non public 

1911
01:11:59,082 --> 01:12:01,384
schools for the emergency 

1912
01:12:01,384 --> 01:12:02,285
assistance, the non public 

1913
01:12:02,285 --> 01:12:05,221
schools program. It 

1914
01:12:05,221 --> 01:12:07,924
appropriates $19000000 in gear 

1915
01:12:07,924 --> 01:12:10,761
dollars to county boards of 

1916
01:12:10,761 --> 01:12:12,396
developmental disabilities 

1917
01:12:12,396 --> 01:12:13,763
joint vocational school 

1918
01:12:13,763 --> 01:12:18,868
districts and Ess Ess. another 

1919
01:12:18,868 --> 01:12:20,303
appropriate $7000000 in gear 

1920
01:12:20,303 --> 01:12:23,706
dollars in fiscal year 21 for 

1921
01:12:23,706 --> 01:12:25,708
grants up to $100000 for 

1922
01:12:25,708 --> 01:12:27,009
chartered non public schools 

1923
01:12:27,009 --> 01:12:29,312
with fewer than fifty students 

1924
01:12:29,312 --> 01:12:31,380
in need of additional financial 

1925
01:12:31,380 --> 01:12:33,749
assistance. appropriates. 

1926
01:12:33,749 --> 01:12:36,253
Million. 1000008000000 for 

1927
01:12:36,253 --> 01:12:37,754
fiscal years, twenty-two and 

1928
01:12:37,754 --> 01:12:41,256
twenty-three, respectively. 

1929
01:12:41,256 --> 01:12:43,259
gear funding for grants and 

1930
01:12:43,259 --> 01:12:44,327
chartered non public schools 

1931
01:12:44,327 --> 01:12:46,896
for summer education programs 

1932
01:12:46,896 --> 01:12:49,366
It requires ODE to report to 

1933
01:12:49,366 --> 01:12:50,933
the General Assembly on the 

1934
01:12:50,933 --> 01:12:53,336
federal spending for ODE and 

1935
01:12:53,336 --> 01:12:54,770
the school districts and 

1936
01:12:54,770 --> 01:12:57,340
permits the auditor state to 

1937
01:12:57,340 --> 01:13:00,277
audit that spending for ODE and 

1938
01:13:00,277 --> 01:13:03,245
school districts it. 

1939
01:13:03,245 --> 01:13:05,748
Appropriates $8000000 in 

1940
01:13:05,748 --> 01:13:07,183
coronavirus relief fund dollars 

1941
01:13:07,183 --> 01:13:08,351
for the Edmonton general’s 

1942
01:13:08,351 --> 01:13:09,185
office to pay for National 

1943
01:13:09,185 --> 01:13:11,621
Guard expenses related to the 

1944
01:13:11,621 --> 01:13:13,055
covid-19 pandemic and last, but 

1945
01:13:13,055 --> 01:13:16,259
not the least it appropriates. 

1946
01:13:16,259 --> 01:13:17,860
3000000 in federal public 

1947
01:13:17,860 --> 01:13:20,296
health emergency response 

1948
01:13:20,296 --> 01:13:22,131
dollars to the Ohio Department 

1949
01:13:22,131 --> 01:13:24,400
of Health for testing tracing 

1950
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,002
and vaccinations, and I just 

1951
01:13:26,002 --> 01:13:27,537
did wanna point out one one 

1952
01:13:27,537 --> 01:13:29,205
thing does seem like a lot of 

1953
01:13:29,205 --> 01:13:32,742
money is going to excuse me. 

1954
01:13:32,742 --> 01:13:34,376
Public schools in this you add 

1955
01:13:34,376 --> 01:13:36,245
it all up. It’s about 

1956
01:13:36,245 --> 01:13:37,480
$200000000, whereas there’s 

1957
01:13:37,480 --> 01:13:40,282
about 680. 680000000 going for 

1958
01:13:40,282 --> 01:13:41,418
public school districts. I did 

1959
01:13:41,418 --> 01:13:43,420
wanna point out that in 

1960
01:13:43,420 --> 01:13:44,720
previous legislation, 

1961
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:46,323
$200000000 went to public 

1962
01:13:46,323 --> 01:13:48,424
schools. There’s still about a 

1963
01:13:48,424 --> 01:13:50,293
$1000000000 outstanding of ES 

1964
01:13:50,293 --> 01:13:52,795
or $2 for public schools, Four 

1965
01:13:52,795 --> 01:13:54,430
and a half billion estimated 

1966
01:13:54,430 --> 01:13:56,766
for or three for public schools 

1967
01:13:56,766 --> 01:13:58,268
and all of this not 

1968
01:13:58,268 --> 01:14:00,236
withstanding the potential 

1969
01:14:00,236 --> 01:14:02,239
education bill that is. 

1970
01:14:02,239 --> 01:14:04,774
Discussed by the White House 

1971
01:14:04,774 --> 01:14:07,143
with that I’d like to thank the 

1972
01:14:07,143 --> 01:14:07,877
finance committee chairman 

1973
01:14:07,877 --> 01:14:11,647
Dolan my joint sponsor Senator 

1974
01:14:11,647 --> 01:14:13,916
Brenner my aides Maria Rimmel 

1975
01:14:13,916 --> 01:14:15,985
and Emily Bowser, and with that 

1976
01:14:15,985 --> 01:14:17,754
I would urge passage. Thank you 

1977
01:14:17,754 --> 01:14:18,421
mister President Thank you 

1978
01:14:18,421 --> 01:14:20,289
Senator The chair recognizes 

1979
01:14:20,289 --> 01:14:22,458
Senator Brenner Thank you, 

1980
01:14:22,458 --> 01:14:23,760
mister president and members of 

1981
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:25,928
the Senate. I thank you for 

1982
01:14:25,928 --> 01:14:27,329
allowing me to speak today and 

1983
01:14:27,329 --> 01:14:29,899
support of Senate Bill 111, 

1984
01:14:29,899 --> 01:14:31,234
which will provide much needed 

1985
01:14:31,234 --> 01:14:32,869
assistance to schools and their 

1986
01:14:32,869 --> 01:14:33,803
entities in response to the 

1987
01:14:33,803 --> 01:14:36,205
covid-19 pandemic as my joints. 

1988
01:14:36,205 --> 01:14:38,708
Senator Blessings pointed out 

1989
01:14:38,708 --> 01:14:40,209
the funding that goes to the 

1990
01:14:40,209 --> 01:14:41,410
various entities wanted to 

1991
01:14:41,410 --> 01:14:42,345
mention a couple of the 

1992
01:14:42,345 --> 01:14:43,680
amendments that were added one 

1993
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,514
of those amendments gives the 

1994
01:14:45,514 --> 01:14:47,016
state auditor the authority to 

1995
01:14:47,016 --> 01:14:49,185
review that the district’s 

1996
01:14:49,185 --> 01:14:50,853
spending is going towards a 

1997
01:14:50,853 --> 01:14:52,488
covid relief and this is just 

1998
01:14:52,488 --> 01:14:54,056
an authority to do it. They 

1999
01:14:54,056 --> 01:14:54,957
don’t necessarily have to, but 

2000
01:14:54,957 --> 01:14:56,292
if something were to come up, 

2001
01:14:56,292 --> 01:14:57,426
they could go in and do an 

2002
01:14:57,426 --> 01:15:00,263
audit and also permits the 

2003
01:15:00,263 --> 01:15:01,864
state to spend funds that 

2004
01:15:01,864 --> 01:15:03,799
aren’t spent in later years so 

2005
01:15:03,799 --> 01:15:06,736
that those. Are kept and spent 

2006
01:15:06,736 --> 01:15:09,239
in the classroom, which is 

2007
01:15:09,239 --> 01:15:10,906
desperately needed for schools 

2008
01:15:10,906 --> 01:15:13,276
all over the state of Ohio, The 

2009
01:15:13,276 --> 01:15:17,847
key part about this is we have. 

2010
01:15:17,847 --> 01:15:19,282
1.6 plus million students in 

2011
01:15:19,282 --> 01:15:22,118
the state of Ohio who have had 

2012
01:15:22,118 --> 01:15:25,454
to go through a very tumultuous 

2013
01:15:25,454 --> 01:15:27,256
year their teachers 

2014
01:15:27,256 --> 01:15:28,358
administrators, their staff 

2015
01:15:28,358 --> 01:15:30,926
support personnel. it has been 

2016
01:15:30,926 --> 01:15:33,462
in a major effort to try to 

2017
01:15:33,462 --> 01:15:35,697
shift to blended learning. 

2018
01:15:35,697 --> 01:15:37,266
Distance learning and complete 

2019
01:15:37,266 --> 01:15:40,202
remote learning at times and in 

2020
01:15:40,202 --> 01:15:42,205
fact many school districts were 

2021
01:15:42,205 --> 01:15:44,140
distance learning all the way 

2022
01:15:44,140 --> 01:15:47,276
up until just a few weeks ago 

2023
01:15:47,276 --> 01:15:48,711
and even most of them are still 

2024
01:15:48,711 --> 01:15:50,212
in hybrid mode. So this is 

2025
01:15:50,212 --> 01:15:52,014
something where there’s a lot 

2026
01:15:52,014 --> 01:15:52,715
of things are gonna need to 

2027
01:15:52,715 --> 01:15:54,517
happen in the coming months to 

2028
01:15:54,517 --> 01:15:55,818
catch these students up and a 

2029
01:15:55,818 --> 01:15:57,287
lot of this money is going to 

2030
01:15:57,287 --> 01:15:59,889
go towards. funding to help 

2031
01:15:59,889 --> 01:16:02,425
with remediation efforts of 

2032
01:16:02,425 --> 01:16:03,692
those students. So it’s it’s 

2033
01:16:03,692 --> 01:16:05,829
it’s very. Vitally important 

2034
01:16:05,829 --> 01:16:07,363
that we get this passed so that 

2035
01:16:07,363 --> 01:16:09,198
it gets out to the schools 

2036
01:16:09,198 --> 01:16:13,202
where it is needed for this 

2037
01:16:13,202 --> 01:16:14,437
remediation cuz I think what 

2038
01:16:14,437 --> 01:16:14,971
we’re gonna see is we’re gonna 

2039
01:16:14,971 --> 01:16:17,306
see a major lag going forward 

2040
01:16:17,306 --> 01:16:19,741
in the next couple of years. so 

2041
01:16:19,741 --> 01:16:21,644
I will say I think our state 

2042
01:16:21,644 --> 01:16:22,812
schools have done as good as 

2043
01:16:22,812 --> 01:16:24,747
they could under the 

2044
01:16:24,747 --> 01:16:26,482
circumstances and I think we 

2045
01:16:26,482 --> 01:16:29,285
should all give them AAA strong 

2046
01:16:29,285 --> 01:16:31,253
support going forward and I 

2047
01:16:31,253 --> 01:16:32,588
think this bill helps do that 

2048
01:16:32,588 --> 01:16:34,990
as my joint sponsor. Pointed 

2049
01:16:34,990 --> 01:16:36,258
out there will be additional 

2050
01:16:36,258 --> 01:16:38,394
dollars coming in the coming 

2051
01:16:38,394 --> 01:16:40,463
weeks and months through 

2052
01:16:40,463 --> 01:16:43,933
additional esser funding. I 

2053
01:16:43,933 --> 01:16:45,234
wish to also thank my joint 

2054
01:16:45,234 --> 01:16:47,769
sponsor. Senator blessing in 

2055
01:16:47,769 --> 01:16:49,405
his aides Chairman Dolan and 

2056
01:16:49,405 --> 01:16:53,409
all the work that his aides. to 

2057
01:16:53,409 --> 01:16:55,945
do and Elizabeth Bumgarner and 

2058
01:16:55,945 --> 01:16:58,347
Carl Phillips as well on 

2059
01:16:58,347 --> 01:16:59,949
working on this, the members of 

2060
01:16:59,949 --> 01:17:00,616
Legislative Service Commission 

2061
01:17:00,616 --> 01:17:01,817
have worked hard to putting 

2062
01:17:01,817 --> 01:17:04,287
this together my own aides. 

2063
01:17:04,287 --> 01:17:05,554
Reagan’s Charles Perry and my 

2064
01:17:05,554 --> 01:17:07,723
former senior legislative 

2065
01:17:07,723 --> 01:17:09,258
Allison Lawler Thank you mister 

2066
01:17:09,258 --> 01:17:10,994
President I encourage support 

2067
01:17:10,994 --> 01:17:13,662
of Senate Bill 111 The question 

2068
01:17:13,662 --> 01:17:16,365
is shall the bill pass the 

2069
01:17:16,365 --> 01:17:19,969
clerk will call the roll. And 

2070
01:17:19,969 --> 01:17:26,208
Tony. Antonio, blessing Brenner 

2071
01:17:26,208 --> 01:17:31,847
sereno Craig Dolan 

2072
01:17:31,981 --> 01:17:37,252
Javone Hackett hoagland 

2073
01:17:38,387 --> 01:17:41,624
Laying 

2074
01:17:47,697 --> 01:17:50,233
Legislation, which violates the 

2075
01:17:50,233 --> 01:17:53,269
Ohio Constitution not also 

2076
01:17:53,269 --> 01:17:57,306
violate that solemn oath. 

2077
01:17:57,306 --> 01:17:58,841
Question is shall I substitute 

2078
01:17:58,841 --> 01:18:00,810
Senate Bill Twenty-two pass not 

2079
01:18:00,810 --> 01:18:01,811
withstanding the objections of 

2080
01:18:01,811 --> 01:18:04,247
the governor chair recognizes 

2081
01:18:04,247 --> 01:18:07,317
Representative Kelly Thank you. 

2082
01:18:07,317 --> 01:18:09,785
Mister Speaker this this bill 

2083
01:18:09,785 --> 01:18:12,454
is the same. and I think that’s 

2084
01:18:12,454 --> 01:18:13,790
part of the part of the 

2085
01:18:13,790 --> 01:18:15,491
challenge. You know we’re still 

2086
01:18:15,491 --> 01:18:18,061
in a place where people are 

2087
01:18:18,061 --> 01:18:19,728
struggling and we are still in 

2088
01:18:19,728 --> 01:18:20,797
a place where we should be 

2089
01:18:20,797 --> 01:18:23,566
doing work that puts Ohio’s 

2090
01:18:23,566 --> 01:18:25,100
people first rabbi a and when 

2091
01:18:25,100 --> 01:18:27,236
he opened us up today and said, 

2092
01:18:27,236 --> 01:18:30,740
we need to be working on just 

2093
01:18:30,740 --> 01:18:32,975
legislation that’s legislation 

2094
01:18:32,975 --> 01:18:35,010
that does the most good for the 

2095
01:18:35,010 --> 01:18:37,746
greatest number of people our 

2096
01:18:37,746 --> 01:18:38,982
constituents are still counting 

2097
01:18:38,982 --> 01:18:40,817
on us to help get back to some 

2098
01:18:40,817 --> 01:18:44,254
sort of normal. We talked 

2099
01:18:44,254 --> 01:18:46,088
before about how consequential 

2100
01:18:46,088 --> 01:18:48,190
this bill is, and it’s about 

2101
01:18:48,190 --> 01:18:49,792
more than the circumstances in 

2102
01:18:49,792 --> 01:18:52,228
which we find ourselves today. 

2103
01:18:52,228 --> 01:18:54,764
We have no idea what future 

2104
01:18:54,764 --> 01:18:56,565
crisis are going to find us 

2105
01:18:56,565 --> 01:18:57,867
what we are going to find 

2106
01:18:57,867 --> 01:19:00,803
ourselves in along the road and 

2107
01:19:00,803 --> 01:19:02,071
we should you know, I know a 

2108
01:19:02,071 --> 01:19:03,306
lot of the conversation was 

2109
01:19:03,306 --> 01:19:04,774
about who’s being listened 

2110
01:19:04,774 --> 01:19:06,776
who’s not being listened to 

2111
01:19:06,776 --> 01:19:08,310
who’s getting called who’s not 

2112
01:19:08,310 --> 01:19:09,145
getting called when they’re 

2113
01:19:09,145 --> 01:19:10,780
getting called But the bottom 

2114
01:19:10,780 --> 01:19:12,348
line is we need to listen to 

2115
01:19:12,348 --> 01:19:13,783
the concerns of our 

2116
01:19:13,783 --> 01:19:14,884
constituents. We all but we 

2117
01:19:14,884 --> 01:19:16,385
also need to listen to the 

2118
01:19:16,385 --> 01:19:20,022
experts. We are all. The last 

2119
01:19:20,022 --> 01:19:22,224
year has been tough, It’s been 

2120
01:19:22,224 --> 01:19:24,260
tough for all of us some ways 

2121
01:19:24,260 --> 01:19:26,362
the same and in some ways 

2122
01:19:26,362 --> 01:19:27,863
different but when we go 

2123
01:19:27,863 --> 01:19:29,198
through this process and we 

2124
01:19:29,198 --> 01:19:30,500
start passing laws that are 

2125
01:19:30,500 --> 01:19:32,234
based on fear and on 

2126
01:19:32,234 --> 01:19:34,403
misinformation, we are doing a 

2127
01:19:34,403 --> 01:19:35,838
disservice to everyone in the 

2128
01:19:35,838 --> 01:19:39,776
state We cannot let fear drive 

2129
01:19:39,776 --> 01:19:42,712
our decisions and we can’t take 

2130
01:19:42,712 --> 01:19:44,447
our eyes off the ball. You 

2131
01:19:44,447 --> 01:19:46,248
know, Mister speaker. in this 

2132
01:19:46,248 --> 01:19:49,285
branch. we’re. To have lots of 

2133
01:19:49,285 --> 01:19:51,120
robust debate, we’re supposed 

2134
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,322
to argue about the best pathway 

2135
01:19:53,322 --> 01:19:55,858
to get to where we’re going. 

2136
01:19:55,858 --> 01:19:57,260
but it seems like you know 

2137
01:19:57,260 --> 01:19:58,928
instead of having debates that 

2138
01:19:58,928 --> 01:20:01,765
are based in fact, we’re having 

2139
01:20:01,765 --> 01:20:04,066
debates about what even are 

2140
01:20:04,066 --> 01:20:05,534
facts and it’s really 

2141
01:20:05,534 --> 01:20:06,802
disappointing to me that we’re 

2142
01:20:06,802 --> 01:20:08,003
standing here today on this 

2143
01:20:08,003 --> 01:20:10,806
veto override because this 

2144
01:20:10,806 --> 01:20:13,342
chamber has the ability to do a 

2145
01:20:13,342 --> 01:20:16,011
lot of good for a lot of people 

2146
01:20:16,011 --> 01:20:16,946
in this state, we have the 

2147
01:20:16,946 --> 01:20:19,815
ability. To make positive 

2148
01:20:19,815 --> 01:20:21,784
transformative change for 

2149
01:20:21,784 --> 01:20:23,786
people and there are a lot of 

2150
01:20:23,786 --> 01:20:25,854
ways to do it and this isn’t it 

2151
01:20:25,854 --> 01:20:27,857
so I would urge a no vote on 

2152
01:20:27,857 --> 01:20:30,993
the veto override. 

2153
01:20:31,293 --> 01:20:32,394
Question is how I substitute 

2154
01:20:32,394 --> 01:20:33,996
Senate Bill Twenty-two pass not 

2155
01:20:33,996 --> 01:20:34,897
withstanding the objections of 

2156
01:20:34,897 --> 01:20:36,765
the governor, the chair 

2157
01:20:36,765 --> 01:20:37,733
recognizes Representative 

2158
01:20:37,733 --> 01:20:39,369
Wickham Thank you mister 

2159
01:20:39,369 --> 01:20:40,836
Speaker, One one thing that I 

2160
01:20:40,836 --> 01:20:43,373
know for a fact in my 4 years 

2161
01:20:43,373 --> 01:20:44,840
of being in this in this body 

2162
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:46,976
is that when somebody disagrees 

2163
01:20:46,976 --> 01:20:47,710
with your bill, the first thing 

2164
01:20:47,710 --> 01:20:48,711
they say is it’s 

2165
01:20:48,711 --> 01:20:50,680
unconstitutional. That’s a fact 

2166
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:52,247
I hear that all the time 

2167
01:20:52,247 --> 01:20:54,183
section fifteen article Two of 

2168
01:20:54,183 --> 01:20:55,351
the Ohio Constitution does 

2169
01:20:55,351 --> 01:20:56,986
indeed require the enactment of 

2170
01:20:56,986 --> 01:21:00,322
laws by bills but substitutes 

2171
01:21:00,322 --> 01:21:00,789
substitutes Senate Bill 

2172
01:21:00,789 --> 01:21:03,126
Twenty-two is a bill making the 

2173
01:21:03,126 --> 01:21:04,460
law that governs the executive 

2174
01:21:04,460 --> 01:21:05,527
branches exercise of its 

2175
01:21:05,527 --> 01:21:06,195
authority. The General 

2176
01:21:06,195 --> 01:21:08,864
Assembly. Has the only policy 

2177
01:21:08,864 --> 01:21:11,134
making authority identified by 

2178
01:21:11,134 --> 01:21:12,768
the Ohio Constitution and 

2179
01:21:12,768 --> 01:21:15,404
certainly could eliminate 

2180
01:21:15,404 --> 01:21:16,506
administrative order and rule 

2181
01:21:16,506 --> 01:21:18,874
making authority all entirely 

2182
01:21:18,874 --> 01:21:20,308
if it wanted to. but what we’re 

2183
01:21:20,308 --> 01:21:21,911
actually doing is putting 

2184
01:21:21,911 --> 01:21:24,213
guardrails in the law around 

2185
01:21:24,213 --> 01:21:25,748
the rule Making authority is 

2186
01:21:25,748 --> 01:21:28,250
what we’re doing with this bill 

2187
01:21:28,250 --> 01:21:29,718
nearly every every state of the 

2188
01:21:29,718 --> 01:21:31,187
union has the same type of 

2189
01:21:31,187 --> 01:21:32,855
language in the constitution 

2190
01:21:32,855 --> 01:21:34,623
and the vast majority of them 

2191
01:21:34,623 --> 01:21:35,424
have concurrent resolution 

2192
01:21:35,424 --> 01:21:38,394
abilities. To govern rule 

2193
01:21:38,394 --> 01:21:40,496
making by the executive branch, 

2194
01:21:40,496 --> 01:21:42,165
we’re doing that same thing, 

2195
01:21:42,165 --> 01:21:44,299
the Ohio Constitution does not 

2196
01:21:44,299 --> 01:21:47,270
grant of emergency powers We do 

2197
01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:49,905
we grant that authority to the 

2198
01:21:49,905 --> 01:21:52,474
executive branch Those powers 

2199
01:21:52,474 --> 01:21:53,776
are statutory, not the ones 

2200
01:21:53,776 --> 01:21:54,510
that the governor has been 

2201
01:21:54,510 --> 01:21:56,445
talking about the ones that he 

2202
01:21:56,445 --> 01:21:57,980
has claimed that the powers 

2203
01:21:57,980 --> 01:21:59,314
that we’re talking about here 

2204
01:21:59,314 --> 01:22:00,916
are the are the ones that the 

2205
01:22:00,916 --> 01:22:02,117
governor’s claimed that he has 

2206
01:22:02,117 --> 01:22:04,386
the power without legislative 

2207
01:22:04,386 --> 01:22:07,757
statutory authority. Not we 

2208
01:22:07,757 --> 01:22:09,425
have that authority to give to 

2209
01:22:09,425 --> 01:22:10,693
him and we also have that 

2210
01:22:10,693 --> 01:22:13,296
authority to take away. they 

2211
01:22:13,296 --> 01:22:14,930
are given to the governor to 

2212
01:22:14,930 --> 01:22:16,031
the governor through 

2213
01:22:16,031 --> 01:22:17,300
legislation and this is the 

2214
01:22:17,300 --> 01:22:18,701
same as true for the agencies 

2215
01:22:18,701 --> 01:22:19,834
underneath the governor, the 

2216
01:22:19,834 --> 01:22:21,470
Department of Health and other 

2217
01:22:21,470 --> 01:22:23,772
agencies the governor’s 

2218
01:22:23,772 --> 01:22:25,474
emergency powers in the in what 

2219
01:22:25,474 --> 01:22:27,876
we’re talking about today are 

2220
01:22:27,876 --> 01:22:29,312
limited to those given to his 

2221
01:22:29,312 --> 01:22:32,548
office by statute So in statute 

2222
01:22:32,548 --> 01:22:34,350
we’re going back and putting 

2223
01:22:34,350 --> 01:22:34,950
guardrails. I don’t know about 

2224
01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:36,552
your mom but my mom once said, 

2225
01:22:36,552 --> 01:22:38,254
I brought you into this world 

2226
01:22:38,254 --> 01:22:39,888
and I can take you out. You 

2227
01:22:39,888 --> 01:22:40,823
know my speaker. what I’m 

2228
01:22:40,823 --> 01:22:42,792
saying today is that we. Have 

2229
01:22:42,792 --> 01:22:44,560
the ability to work with the 

2230
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,763
governor and put guard rails 

2231
01:22:46,763 --> 01:22:48,430
around the authority that has 

2232
01:22:48,430 --> 01:22:50,933
been given to the governor for 

2233
01:22:50,933 --> 01:22:54,937
the past 100 years. 

2234
01:22:55,170 --> 01:22:55,904
Question is how substitute 

2235
01:22:55,904 --> 01:22:57,073
Senate Bill Twenty-two passed 

2236
01:22:57,073 --> 01:22:58,974
not withstanding the objections 

2237
01:22:58,974 --> 01:23:00,809
of the governor. chair 

2238
01:23:00,809 --> 01:23:04,813
recognizes representative click 

2239
01:23:04,813 --> 01:23:07,249
Thank you Speaker and I would 

2240
01:23:07,249 --> 01:23:09,986
urge a yes vote on overturning 

2241
01:23:09,986 --> 01:23:12,288
an overriding the governor’s 

2242
01:23:12,288 --> 01:23:14,389
veto and I say this not because 

2243
01:23:14,389 --> 01:23:16,326
of personality. This is not 

2244
01:23:16,326 --> 01:23:17,760
about policy. This is about a 

2245
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,395
fundamental American principle 

2246
01:23:19,395 --> 01:23:22,097
of checks and balances in 

2247
01:23:22,097 --> 01:23:23,232
federal is fifty-one. James 

2248
01:23:23,232 --> 01:23:25,000
Madison said that if men were 

2249
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:26,235
angels, we would need no 

2250
01:23:26,235 --> 01:23:27,536
government, but the fact is 

2251
01:23:27,536 --> 01:23:29,004
none of us in this room are 

2252
01:23:29,004 --> 01:23:30,339
angels the governor’s not an 

2253
01:23:30,339 --> 01:23:32,541
angel. There are no angels and 

2254
01:23:32,541 --> 01:23:34,844
so in that same peace and He 

2255
01:23:34,844 --> 01:23:37,246
said ambition must check 

2256
01:23:37,246 --> 01:23:38,947
ambition and one thing that we 

2257
01:23:38,947 --> 01:23:40,282
know is that power is 

2258
01:23:40,282 --> 01:23:42,317
intoxicating when someone takes 

2259
01:23:42,317 --> 01:23:42,985
power, they don’t wanna give it 

2260
01:23:42,985 --> 01:23:44,420
back. They don’t like to give 

2261
01:23:44,420 --> 01:23:47,789
it back and I remember reading 

2262
01:23:47,789 --> 01:23:50,760
about the constitution in 1787, 

2263
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:51,760
Benjamin Franklin was 

2264
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:52,494
descending the steps in 

2265
01:23:52,494 --> 01:23:54,530
Independence Hall and Missus 

2266
01:23:54,530 --> 01:23:56,265
Powell came to him and she says 

2267
01:23:56,265 --> 01:23:59,734
well, doctor what have we got a 

2268
01:23:59,734 --> 01:24:02,437
monarchy or a republic? His 

2269
01:24:02,437 --> 01:24:03,306
answer was simple and you all 

2270
01:24:03,306 --> 01:24:05,274
know what his answer was a 

2271
01:24:05,274 --> 01:24:08,644
Republican ma’am. 

2272
01:24:09,211 --> 01:24:14,383
And he said if you can keep it 

2273
01:24:14,383 --> 01:24:16,118
today, I am voting to keep it. 

2274
01:24:16,118 --> 01:24:18,287
I am voting to restore the 

2275
01:24:18,287 --> 01:24:20,889
voice of the people of Ohio, 

2276
01:24:20,889 --> 01:24:22,391
the voice of the people in the 

2277
01:24:22,391 --> 01:24:23,292
Eighty-eighth District of Ohio 

2278
01:24:23,292 --> 01:24:25,460
and I would urge passage of 

2279
01:24:25,460 --> 01:24:27,496
this bill to overturn the 

2280
01:24:27,496 --> 01:24:29,664
governor’s veto The question is 

2281
01:24:29,664 --> 01:24:31,766
shall. substitute Senate Bill 

2282
01:24:31,766 --> 01:24:33,035
Twenty-two pass not 

2283
01:24:33,035 --> 01:24:34,870
withstanding the objections of 

2284
01:24:34,870 --> 01:24:38,106
the governor. 

2285
01:24:38,773 --> 01:24:40,742
Chair recognizes Representative 

2286
01:24:40,742 --> 01:24:44,480
Brown. I’ll be brief. it does 

2287
01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:48,249
what I like the Constitution. I 

2288
01:24:48,249 --> 01:24:51,086
don’t think any legal scholar 

2289
01:24:51,086 --> 01:24:51,887
constitutional scholar would 

2290
01:24:51,887 --> 01:24:53,489
would disagree those who don’t 

2291
01:24:53,489 --> 01:24:55,724
know anything about it may but 

2292
01:24:55,724 --> 01:24:57,326
not legal scholars about it and 

2293
01:24:57,326 --> 01:24:59,895
the bottom line is this body 

2294
01:24:59,895 --> 01:25:03,899
gave the governor in 37 to 113 

2295
01:25:03,899 --> 01:25:05,334
the power to do what he has 

2296
01:25:05,334 --> 01:25:07,102
done there could be questions 

2297
01:25:07,102 --> 01:25:08,170
about whether he has gone too 

2298
01:25:08,170 --> 01:25:11,673
far. Those are legitimate. But 

2299
01:25:11,673 --> 01:25:13,675
if you want to limit the 

2300
01:25:13,675 --> 01:25:15,510
governor, then revise 

2301
01:25:15,510 --> 01:25:19,382
Thirty-seven, oh 113. Rescind 

2302
01:25:19,382 --> 01:25:22,250
it or revise it, but you cannot 

2303
01:25:22,250 --> 01:25:24,786
do what this bill tries to do, 

2304
01:25:24,786 --> 01:25:27,322
which is which is to legislate 

2305
01:25:27,322 --> 01:25:29,892
by the resolution you cannot do 

2306
01:25:29,892 --> 01:25:31,293
that without violating the 

2307
01:25:31,293 --> 01:25:32,794
constitution. That is my 

2308
01:25:32,794 --> 01:25:34,329
objection to this. Thank you 

2309
01:25:34,329 --> 01:25:35,998
question is how substitute 

2310
01:25:35,998 --> 01:25:37,132
Senate Bill Twenty-two passed 

2311
01:25:37,132 --> 01:25:38,700
not withstanding the objections 

2312
01:25:38,700 --> 01:25:41,870
of the governor. Chair 

2313
01:25:41,870 --> 01:25:43,405
recognizes representative sites 

2314
01:25:43,405 --> 01:25:45,040
Thank you mister speaker at the 

2315
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,309
risk of. disputing my colleague 

2316
01:25:47,309 --> 01:25:50,311
on constitutional issues. Let 

2317
01:25:50,311 --> 01:25:54,282
me remind everyone that we have 

2318
01:25:54,282 --> 01:25:56,785
already crossed this Rubicon 

2319
01:25:56,785 --> 01:26:00,256
over 30 years ago when we 

2320
01:26:00,256 --> 01:26:01,790
created the joint committee on 

2321
01:26:01,790 --> 01:26:04,793
Agency Rule review, which has 

2322
01:26:04,793 --> 01:26:07,329
the power to recommend 

2323
01:26:07,329 --> 01:26:09,798
invalidation of any rule 

2324
01:26:09,798 --> 01:26:11,767
promulgated by virtually any 

2325
01:26:11,767 --> 01:26:14,336
state agency and upon. 

2326
01:26:14,336 --> 01:26:16,872
Recommendation of invalidation 

2327
01:26:16,872 --> 01:26:18,674
the law on the books for over 

2328
01:26:18,674 --> 01:26:22,310
30 years. says the General 

2329
01:26:22,310 --> 01:26:23,745
Assembly by concurrent 

2330
01:26:23,745 --> 01:26:26,382
resolution may then invalidate 

2331
01:26:26,382 --> 01:26:28,883
that rule that’s been on the 

2332
01:26:28,883 --> 01:26:31,820
books in Ohio for over 30 

2333
01:26:31,820 --> 01:26:35,291
years. What we’re doing today 

2334
01:26:35,291 --> 01:26:38,460
is nothing different than that. 

2335
01:26:38,460 --> 01:26:41,797
but more importantly. as I 

2336
01:26:41,797 --> 01:26:43,765
mentioned in my last four 

2337
01:26:43,765 --> 01:26:46,001
speech on this bill. And I’m 

2338
01:26:46,001 --> 01:26:48,237
gonna read it this time, not 

2339
01:26:48,237 --> 01:26:51,307
the whole litany but Twenty-six 

2340
01:26:51,307 --> 01:26:54,844
states Twenty-six states. 

2341
01:26:54,844 --> 01:26:56,545
provide that the governor’s 

2342
01:26:56,545 --> 01:26:59,282
emergency orders may be 

2343
01:26:59,282 --> 01:27:03,252
terminated or rescinded. by 

2344
01:27:03,252 --> 01:27:06,789
joint resolution of their 

2345
01:27:06,789 --> 01:27:09,958
General assembly. They are red 

2346
01:27:09,958 --> 01:27:13,296
states They are blue states and 

2347
01:27:13,296 --> 01:27:13,995
since there’s only twenty-six, 

2348
01:27:13,995 --> 01:27:16,698
we’ll have a little. Call of 

2349
01:27:16,698 --> 01:27:19,768
the states and I cannot believe 

2350
01:27:19,768 --> 01:27:21,236
that their constitutions are 

2351
01:27:21,236 --> 01:27:22,838
fundamentally different than 

2352
01:27:22,838 --> 01:27:28,276
ours. Arizona. Arkansas, 

2353
01:27:28,276 --> 01:27:33,282
Colorado Connecticut. Florida. 

2354
01:27:33,282 --> 01:27:37,786
Georgia, Idaho, Indiana. Iowa, 

2355
01:27:37,786 --> 01:27:42,958
Louisiana. Maine, Maryland, 

2356
01:27:42,958 --> 01:27:45,394
Massachusetts, Missouri. 

2357
01:27:45,394 --> 01:27:48,531
Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire 

2358
01:27:48,531 --> 01:27:52,201
New York. North. Oklahoma 

2359
01:27:52,201 --> 01:27:55,771
Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode 

2360
01:27:55,771 --> 01:27:59,708
Island, Texas, Utah and West by 

2361
01:27:59,708 --> 01:28:02,978
God, Virginia. 

2362
01:28:03,278 --> 01:28:06,782
That suggests to me that the 

2363
01:28:06,782 --> 01:28:07,383
constitutional scholars must 

2364
01:28:07,383 --> 01:28:09,718
all be off their rocker in 26 

2365
01:28:09,718 --> 01:28:10,986
other states too. If we’re to 

2366
01:28:10,986 --> 01:28:12,922
believe what we hear I don’t 

2367
01:28:12,922 --> 01:28:15,824
think so Lucy I’m not here to 

2368
01:28:15,824 --> 01:28:17,025
say that Senate Bill Twenty-two 

2369
01:28:17,025 --> 01:28:19,428
is a perfect bill. Many of you 

2370
01:28:19,428 --> 01:28:20,930
know that I have already 

2371
01:28:20,930 --> 01:28:24,399
expressed a need to rectify 

2372
01:28:24,399 --> 01:28:27,135
some problems with this rather 

2373
01:28:27,135 --> 01:28:28,904
urgently aggregating 40 years 

2374
01:28:28,904 --> 01:28:31,407
of precedent that requires 

2375
01:28:31,407 --> 01:28:32,942
damaged lawsuits to be brought 

2376
01:28:32,942 --> 01:28:34,442
in the court of claims a 

2377
01:28:34,442 --> 01:28:37,179
specialized court is. A very 

2378
01:28:37,179 --> 01:28:40,281
good idea letting people sue 

2379
01:28:40,281 --> 01:28:42,117
for injunction Declan relief 

2380
01:28:42,117 --> 01:28:44,453
rid of prohibition rid of manda 

2381
01:28:44,453 --> 01:28:45,253
letting him sue in the 

2382
01:28:45,253 --> 01:28:46,254
Eighty-eight County Common 

2383
01:28:46,254 --> 01:28:47,322
Police courts for that that 

2384
01:28:47,322 --> 01:28:48,990
that’s probably okay I could 

2385
01:28:48,990 --> 01:28:50,659
live with that, but we have a 

2386
01:28:50,659 --> 01:28:52,561
court of claims for a reason 

2387
01:28:52,561 --> 01:28:53,795
and that’s to handle damaged 

2388
01:28:53,795 --> 01:28:55,264
lawsuits against the state. 

2389
01:28:55,264 --> 01:28:57,866
It’s colleges it’s universities 

2390
01:28:57,866 --> 01:28:59,334
and it’s agencies and I think 

2391
01:28:59,334 --> 01:29:02,404
that is needing our attention 

2392
01:29:02,404 --> 01:29:04,340
in other legislation that we 

2393
01:29:04,340 --> 01:29:05,808
will turn our attention to 

2394
01:29:05,808 --> 01:29:06,675
hopefully in the coming weeks 

2395
01:29:06,675 --> 01:29:10,011
and. We have changed 

2396
01:29:10,011 --> 01:29:13,247
Thirty-seven oh 113. in this 

2397
01:29:13,247 --> 01:29:14,950
bill, the bill that gives the 

2398
01:29:14,950 --> 01:29:16,485
Ohio Department of Health and 

2399
01:29:16,485 --> 01:29:17,820
similar provisions on local 

2400
01:29:17,820 --> 01:29:20,122
departments of health the power 

2401
01:29:20,122 --> 01:29:21,624
to quarantine and isolate, and 

2402
01:29:21,624 --> 01:29:22,758
we’ve come up with a pretty 

2403
01:29:22,758 --> 01:29:24,693
decent definition of quarantine 

2404
01:29:24,693 --> 01:29:26,728
and isolation, but it too is 

2405
01:29:26,728 --> 01:29:29,831
not perfect. if someone is 

2406
01:29:29,831 --> 01:29:34,003
coming to Ohio. For the first 

2407
01:29:34,003 --> 01:29:35,504
time from a place where there 

2408
01:29:35,504 --> 01:29:37,806
has been a serious outbreak of 

2409
01:29:37,806 --> 01:29:39,275
infectious or contagious 

2410
01:29:39,275 --> 01:29:41,744
disease, I would think we would 

2411
01:29:41,744 --> 01:29:44,680
want the ability to be able to 

2412
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,215
make that person be isolated 

2413
01:29:47,215 --> 01:29:49,685
for a while. even though we 

2414
01:29:49,685 --> 01:29:50,552
don’t know whether that person 

2415
01:29:50,552 --> 01:29:53,689
has been medically diagnosed or 

2416
01:29:53,689 --> 01:29:56,258
directly exposed to someone 

2417
01:29:56,258 --> 01:29:58,226
with that kind of infectious or 

2418
01:29:58,226 --> 01:30:02,031
contagious disease we so that 

2419
01:30:02,031 --> 01:30:03,064
too needs a little bit more 

2420
01:30:03,064 --> 01:30:06,168
attention. I’ve That for months 

2421
01:30:06,168 --> 01:30:09,171
the Paraguay and Ebola victim 

2422
01:30:09,171 --> 01:30:10,906
and we need to be able to 

2423
01:30:10,906 --> 01:30:12,840
interject that sort of stuff at 

2424
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,010
our border. unlike what’s going 

2425
01:30:15,010 --> 01:30:18,514
on in Texas by the way where we 

2426
01:30:18,514 --> 01:30:21,350
have a huge surge of migrants 

2427
01:30:21,350 --> 01:30:23,018
coming here illegally. that 

2428
01:30:23,018 --> 01:30:25,020
have covid and they’re being 

2429
01:30:25,020 --> 01:30:26,354
released into the general 

2430
01:30:26,354 --> 01:30:27,088
population by the federal 

2431
01:30:27,088 --> 01:30:29,257
government with no oversight 

2432
01:30:29,257 --> 01:30:31,727
whatsoever. but I digress. 

2433
01:30:31,727 --> 01:30:34,796
these changes that we need. To 

2434
01:30:34,796 --> 01:30:36,297
make to Senate Bill Twenty-two 

2435
01:30:36,297 --> 01:30:38,900
down the line should not 

2436
01:30:38,900 --> 01:30:40,202
obfuscate the principal purpose 

2437
01:30:40,202 --> 01:30:42,470
for which we passed Senate Bill 

2438
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:44,305
Twenty-two, which was to 

2439
01:30:44,305 --> 01:30:46,208
restore as my friend, said an 

2440
01:30:46,208 --> 01:30:47,743
element of checks and balances 

2441
01:30:47,743 --> 01:30:49,578
very much in the mainstream of 

2442
01:30:49,578 --> 01:30:51,747
what we have already done with 

2443
01:30:51,747 --> 01:30:54,649
respect to JR and what 26 other 

2444
01:30:54,649 --> 01:30:56,318
states have already done by 

2445
01:30:56,318 --> 01:30:58,821
providing for the invalidation 

2446
01:30:58,821 --> 01:31:00,121
of governor’s emergency powers 

2447
01:31:00,121 --> 01:31:02,458
and orders by joint resolution 

2448
01:31:02,458 --> 01:31:03,826
or concurrent resolution of 

2449
01:31:03,826 --> 01:31:05,927
their general assemblies. I 

2450
01:31:05,927 --> 01:31:08,097
urge a yes vote. Question is 

2451
01:31:08,097 --> 01:31:09,297
how substitute Senate Bill 

2452
01:31:09,297 --> 01:31:10,365
Twenty-two pass not 

2453
01:31:10,365 --> 01:31:11,433
withstanding the objections of 

2454
01:31:11,433 --> 01:31:13,735
the governor chair recognizes 

2455
01:31:13,735 --> 01:31:17,072
representative growth. 

2456
01:31:19,741 --> 01:31:22,311
Thank you mister speaker, I was 

2457
01:31:22,311 --> 01:31:24,012
elected by district fifty-two 

2458
01:31:24,012 --> 01:31:25,480
to represent the people and in 

2459
01:31:25,480 --> 01:31:27,482
the House of Representatives, 

2460
01:31:27,482 --> 01:31:29,250
we represent just that the 

2461
01:31:29,250 --> 01:31:31,887
people and we are their voice. 

2462
01:31:31,887 --> 01:31:33,288
It isn’t only our vote that’s 

2463
01:31:33,288 --> 01:31:35,456
here today it has to do with 

2464
01:31:35,456 --> 01:31:37,325
the more than thirty people who 

2465
01:31:37,325 --> 01:31:39,293
have called and emailed my 

2466
01:31:39,293 --> 01:31:40,996
office today and of the thirty 

2467
01:31:40,996 --> 01:31:43,365
plus who have emailed only two 

2468
01:31:43,365 --> 01:31:44,933
have opposed and as a 

2469
01:31:44,933 --> 01:31:47,303
representative who represents 

2470
01:31:47,303 --> 01:31:49,237
my district of West Chester, 

2471
01:31:49,237 --> 01:31:51,105
Liberty Township and Fairfield 

2472
01:31:51,105 --> 01:31:54,909
Township, I urge. Of this bill 

2473
01:31:54,909 --> 01:31:56,878
question is how substitute 

2474
01:31:56,878 --> 01:31:57,512
Senate Bill Twenty-two passed 

2475
01:31:57,512 --> 01:31:58,914
not withstanding the objections 

2476
01:31:58,914 --> 01:32:02,250
of the governor. chair 

2477
01:32:02,250 --> 01:32:03,718
recognizes Representative 

2478
01:32:03,718 --> 01:32:06,855
Sykes. Thank you mister speaker 

2479
01:32:06,855 --> 01:32:10,425
I rise to encourage all of you 

2480
01:32:10,425 --> 01:32:11,760
in this body and all of my 

2481
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,729
colleagues to vote. No. on 

2482
01:32:14,729 --> 01:32:17,266
overriding this veto and I will 

2483
01:32:17,266 --> 01:32:19,134
not get into the constitutional 

2484
01:32:19,134 --> 01:32:21,469
conversation about this because 

2485
01:32:21,469 --> 01:32:23,939
it’s not necessary to because 

2486
01:32:23,939 --> 01:32:25,140
that’s what our Supreme Court 

2487
01:32:25,140 --> 01:32:26,241
does. That’s what our court 

2488
01:32:26,241 --> 01:32:27,742
system is there for they have a 

2489
01:32:27,742 --> 01:32:29,544
lane they decide constitutional 

2490
01:32:29,544 --> 01:32:30,645
arguments and so I’m not going 

2491
01:32:30,645 --> 01:32:34,248
to do that here but I do. Very 

2492
01:32:34,248 --> 01:32:35,717
clearly that the lane that the 

2493
01:32:35,717 --> 01:32:37,519
legislature is in should not be 

2494
01:32:37,519 --> 01:32:38,620
in the business of public 

2495
01:32:38,620 --> 01:32:40,889
health. I can tell you that 

2496
01:32:40,889 --> 01:32:42,357
just by sitting in this room 

2497
01:32:42,357 --> 01:32:45,427
and looking how looking at how 

2498
01:32:45,427 --> 01:32:46,829
little social distancing is 

2499
01:32:46,829 --> 01:32:49,531
occurring looking at how few 

2500
01:32:49,531 --> 01:32:51,766
members are wearing masks, even 

2501
01:32:51,766 --> 01:32:52,733
though those are the 

2502
01:32:52,733 --> 01:32:54,903
requirements from the Cdc, even 

2503
01:32:54,903 --> 01:32:57,205
though the CDC suggests that 

2504
01:32:57,205 --> 01:32:59,040
even if you are in a room and 

2505
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:01,309
you are a mask if you’re there 

2506
01:33:01,309 --> 01:33:02,510
for longer than an hour, not 

2507
01:33:02,510 --> 01:33:05,313
wearing a mask is substantially 

2508
01:33:05,313 --> 01:33:06,081
dangerous to your health and 

2509
01:33:06,081 --> 01:33:08,516
well being I know that the. In 

2510
01:33:08,516 --> 01:33:10,018
this body don’t have that 

2511
01:33:10,018 --> 01:33:11,987
information because I’ve seen 

2512
01:33:11,987 --> 01:33:13,221
and read the testimony. I’ve 

2513
01:33:13,221 --> 01:33:15,190
heard your quote, I have seen 

2514
01:33:15,190 --> 01:33:18,760
how people have. rejected 

2515
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:19,862
vaccinations in the science 

2516
01:33:19,862 --> 01:33:21,763
around it, and this is a lane 

2517
01:33:21,763 --> 01:33:23,832
that we should not be in. there 

2518
01:33:23,832 --> 01:33:25,701
is a reason why there are three 

2519
01:33:25,701 --> 01:33:27,836
branches of government and I do 

2520
01:33:27,836 --> 01:33:29,604
truly believe in the separation 

2521
01:33:29,604 --> 01:33:32,140
of powers, but this bill Senate 

2522
01:33:32,140 --> 01:33:33,808
Bill Twenty-two goes against 

2523
01:33:33,808 --> 01:33:36,011
that because now this body is 

2524
01:33:36,011 --> 01:33:38,779
injecting it. Into 

2525
01:33:38,779 --> 01:33:40,548
conversations and in spaces in 

2526
01:33:40,548 --> 01:33:43,084
which we do not now when I say 

2527
01:33:43,084 --> 01:33:45,253
we not me cuz it’s personally I 

2528
01:33:45,253 --> 01:33:46,421
do. I have the ability to make 

2529
01:33:46,421 --> 01:33:47,289
those types of decisions, but 

2530
01:33:47,289 --> 01:33:49,725
we as a body as a collective 

2531
01:33:49,725 --> 01:33:52,260
should not be making day-to-day 

2532
01:33:52,260 --> 01:33:53,828
public health decisions because 

2533
01:33:53,828 --> 01:33:55,297
I have seen what has come out 

2534
01:33:55,297 --> 01:33:57,499
of this chamber, I have seen 

2535
01:33:57,499 --> 01:33:58,799
the quotes come out from these 

2536
01:33:58,799 --> 01:34:00,702
members and I am telling you 

2537
01:34:00,702 --> 01:34:02,737
all that this is dangerous. 

2538
01:34:02,737 --> 01:34:05,607
This is ill conceived. This is 

2539
01:34:05,607 --> 01:34:08,677
unnecessary. And then to hear 

2540
01:34:08,677 --> 01:34:12,447
on top of all of that. it’s a 

2541
01:34:12,447 --> 01:34:13,915
fight with the governor because 

2542
01:34:13,915 --> 01:34:15,650
you’re upset, he didn’t call 

2543
01:34:15,650 --> 01:34:18,052
you. I mean, I thought we all 

2544
01:34:18,052 --> 01:34:19,621
got passed People are calling 

2545
01:34:19,621 --> 01:34:21,757
us in high school but 

2546
01:34:21,757 --> 01:34:23,625
apparently now we are willing 

2547
01:34:23,625 --> 01:34:25,694
to to put people’s lives in 

2548
01:34:25,694 --> 01:34:27,529
jeopardy in danger because we 

2549
01:34:27,529 --> 01:34:31,599
feel slighted by some man So 

2550
01:34:31,599 --> 01:34:36,804
what. Figure out a way to work 

2551
01:34:36,804 --> 01:34:39,407
with your colleagues when you 

2552
01:34:39,407 --> 01:34:41,142
lose, you don’t have to change 

2553
01:34:41,142 --> 01:34:43,478
the rules to the game. Perhaps 

2554
01:34:43,478 --> 01:34:44,713
there’s something that you 

2555
01:34:44,713 --> 01:34:47,249
don’t know and I get the 

2556
01:34:47,249 --> 01:34:48,817
frustration I hear the 

2557
01:34:48,817 --> 01:34:50,117
frustration from my colleagues 

2558
01:34:50,117 --> 01:34:51,787
as well and I am a voice for 

2559
01:34:51,787 --> 01:34:53,789
the people who I represent the 

2560
01:34:53,789 --> 01:34:55,958
people who are two to three to 

2561
01:34:55,958 --> 01:34:58,326
four times more likely to be 

2562
01:34:58,326 --> 01:35:00,762
diagnosed with covid to be 

2563
01:35:00,762 --> 01:35:02,263
hospitalized with covid to die 

2564
01:35:02,263 --> 01:35:03,799
from Covid and to also not have 

2565
01:35:03,799 --> 01:35:05,801
access to the care and 

2566
01:35:05,801 --> 01:35:07,269
treatment and the vaccination 

2567
01:35:07,269 --> 01:35:07,969
that will keep them safe. I 

2568
01:35:07,969 --> 01:35:11,439
also. A voice in which I am 

2569
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:12,507
going to speak up and out 

2570
01:35:12,507 --> 01:35:13,975
about, and this is the reason 

2571
01:35:13,975 --> 01:35:16,311
why this body is making a 

2572
01:35:16,311 --> 01:35:19,047
terrible decision. a terrible 

2573
01:35:19,047 --> 01:35:20,381
decision because your feelings 

2574
01:35:20,381 --> 01:35:24,286
were hurt. Because somebody 

2575
01:35:24,286 --> 01:35:26,789
wouldn’t call you. my goodness 

2576
01:35:26,789 --> 01:35:29,457
gracious if I made my decisions 

2577
01:35:29,457 --> 01:35:30,891
about that things would be a 

2578
01:35:30,891 --> 01:35:31,993
lot more different and I would 

2579
01:35:31,993 --> 01:35:32,794
hope that we were more adult 

2580
01:35:32,794 --> 01:35:36,531
and more mature to decide life 

2581
01:35:36,531 --> 01:35:38,600
and death matters rather than 

2582
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:39,835
whether or not you got a phone 

2583
01:35:39,835 --> 01:35:43,806
call from someone or not. to 

2584
01:35:43,806 --> 01:35:46,407
drag citizens into this fight 

2585
01:35:46,407 --> 01:35:50,278
of egos is unacceptable. It is 

2586
01:35:50,278 --> 01:35:56,217
truly unacceptable. To use 

2587
01:35:56,317 --> 01:35:59,288
Claims to do so is even worse. 

2588
01:35:59,288 --> 01:36:01,790
we have talked about often 

2589
01:36:01,790 --> 01:36:03,492
about the facts that people are 

2590
01:36:03,492 --> 01:36:06,028
using to make decisions around 

2591
01:36:06,028 --> 01:36:08,429
Covid and there’s a lot of 

2592
01:36:08,429 --> 01:36:09,864
opinions that we’re seeing just 

2593
01:36:09,864 --> 01:36:11,499
earlier today, I got a 

2594
01:36:11,499 --> 01:36:12,801
wonderful compliment from my 

2595
01:36:12,801 --> 01:36:14,769
colleague from Butler Butler 

2596
01:36:14,769 --> 01:36:17,238
County about my red glasses. 

2597
01:36:17,238 --> 01:36:20,042
These are hot pink. We can’t 

2598
01:36:20,042 --> 01:36:21,510
even figure out what color my 

2599
01:36:21,510 --> 01:36:23,277
glasses are, but you think that 

2600
01:36:23,277 --> 01:36:24,712
we are gonna be able to decide 

2601
01:36:24,712 --> 01:36:25,613
the fate of someone around the 

2602
01:36:25,613 --> 01:36:27,515
covid emergency order The 

2603
01:36:27,515 --> 01:36:31,285
answer is no. the answer is 

2604
01:36:31,285 --> 01:36:33,255
simply no, and what I would 

2605
01:36:33,255 --> 01:36:35,690
encourage the members of this 

2606
01:36:35,690 --> 01:36:38,259
body to do is take a moment and 

2607
01:36:38,259 --> 01:36:41,629
speak to. your fellow member of 

2608
01:36:41,629 --> 01:36:43,698
your political party and figure 

2609
01:36:43,698 --> 01:36:44,799
out how you can hash this out, 

2610
01:36:44,799 --> 01:36:47,235
but you don’t have to drag an 

2611
01:36:47,235 --> 01:36:49,504
11.7. 11.7000000 people into a 

2612
01:36:49,504 --> 01:36:51,205
fight because someone is upset 

2613
01:36:51,205 --> 01:36:54,175
because you didn’t. Them enough 

2614
01:36:54,175 --> 01:36:55,744
you didn’t consult with them 

2615
01:36:55,744 --> 01:36:58,279
enough and even when they were 

2616
01:36:58,279 --> 01:36:59,414
sharing the information I saw 

2617
01:36:59,414 --> 01:37:01,248
how it was just being 

2618
01:37:01,248 --> 01:37:02,751
objectively just being a 

2619
01:37:02,751 --> 01:37:05,454
rejected excuse me because of 

2620
01:37:05,454 --> 01:37:07,222
something somebody posted on 

2621
01:37:07,222 --> 01:37:10,625
the internet. 

2622
01:37:10,792 --> 01:37:13,695
When you see us fight this so 

2623
01:37:13,695 --> 01:37:14,929
ferociously and so vigorously 

2624
01:37:14,929 --> 01:37:18,900
it is not just to admonish 

2625
01:37:18,900 --> 01:37:20,335
anyone just for the sake of 

2626
01:37:20,335 --> 01:37:24,339
doing it Covid is ravaging 

2627
01:37:24,339 --> 01:37:27,276
communities. hospital workers 

2628
01:37:27,276 --> 01:37:29,043
are tired Our kids wanna go 

2629
01:37:29,043 --> 01:37:31,245
back to school. We are sick of 

2630
01:37:31,245 --> 01:37:33,014
folks not being employed, but 

2631
01:37:33,014 --> 01:37:35,817
this is not the right way to do 

2632
01:37:35,817 --> 01:37:39,788
it. And it is incumbent upon 

2633
01:37:39,788 --> 01:37:42,390
all of us to rise above and 

2634
01:37:42,390 --> 01:37:44,760
make hard decisions and 

2635
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:46,394
sometimes be in a position to 

2636
01:37:46,394 --> 01:37:47,595
not get reelected because we 

2637
01:37:47,595 --> 01:37:49,397
made a decision to make sure 

2638
01:37:49,397 --> 01:37:50,565
somebody got to live another 

2639
01:37:50,565 --> 01:37:51,833
day, even if that meant we 

2640
01:37:51,833 --> 01:37:53,201
didn’t get to serve another 

2641
01:37:53,201 --> 01:37:54,802
year in the legislature. Those 

2642
01:37:54,802 --> 01:37:56,804
are the decisions that we are 

2643
01:37:56,804 --> 01:37:57,672
supposed to make as legislators 

2644
01:37:57,672 --> 01:37:58,973
that is how we are supposed to 

2645
01:37:58,973 --> 01:38:01,209
put ourselves and our bodies on 

2646
01:38:01,209 --> 01:38:02,776
the line not just to be upset 

2647
01:38:02,776 --> 01:38:04,545
with someone because they 

2648
01:38:04,545 --> 01:38:05,279
didn’t call you back. We are 

2649
01:38:05,279 --> 01:38:07,849
better than this. I have shared 

2650
01:38:07,849 --> 01:38:09,384
this on the floor before you 

2651
01:38:09,384 --> 01:38:10,852
all are great at a lot of 

2652
01:38:10,852 --> 01:38:13,221
things you are brilliant or 

2653
01:38:13,221 --> 01:38:15,757
lawyers business owners farmers 

2654
01:38:15,757 --> 01:38:16,591
and more, but you are not good 

2655
01:38:16,591 --> 01:38:20,962
at public health. And I dare 

2656
01:38:20,962 --> 01:38:22,997
any of you to debate me on that 

2657
01:38:22,997 --> 01:38:26,200
because you can’t. And I can 

2658
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:28,202
tell as you’re smirking at me 

2659
01:38:28,202 --> 01:38:29,570
with your not wearing a mask. 

2660
01:38:29,570 --> 01:38:30,771
You are not good at public 

2661
01:38:30,771 --> 01:38:31,973
health. This is not your lane. 

2662
01:38:31,973 --> 01:38:33,341
you need to get out of it 

2663
01:38:33,341 --> 01:38:35,710
because people are going to be 

2664
01:38:35,710 --> 01:38:37,145
harmed by this decision. 

2665
01:38:37,145 --> 01:38:38,680
Remember what direct remarks to 

2666
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:39,881
the chair? please well. Mister 

2667
01:38:39,881 --> 01:38:41,349
chair people will be harmed by 

2668
01:38:41,349 --> 01:38:42,583
the decisions of your members 

2669
01:38:42,583 --> 01:38:43,717
because this does not make any 

2670
01:38:43,717 --> 01:38:45,119
sense they are not public 

2671
01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:46,287
health experts. You are not a 

2672
01:38:46,287 --> 01:38:47,289
public health expert and we 

2673
01:38:47,289 --> 01:38:49,190
need to vote No on this bill 

2674
01:38:49,190 --> 01:38:51,025
for the sake of the people in 

2675
01:38:51,025 --> 01:38:53,194
the state. The question is 

2676
01:38:53,194 --> 01:38:54,762
shall substitute Senate Bill 

2677
01:38:54,762 --> 01:38:56,197
Twenty-two pass not 

2678
01:38:56,197 --> 01:38:56,964
withstanding the objections of 

2679
01:38:56,964 --> 01:38:58,766
the governor. The house will 

2680
01:38:58,766 --> 01:39:02,470
prepare and proceed to vote. 

2681
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:21,755
Have all members now voted. The 

2682
01:39:21,755 --> 01:39:26,160
clerk will take the role. It’s 

2683
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:28,796
3562 affirmative votes 

2684
01:39:28,796 --> 01:39:32,233
thirty-five negative votes. 

2685
01:39:32,734 --> 01:39:34,236
The bill having received the 

2686
01:39:34,236 --> 01:39:35,737
required constitutional 

2687
01:39:35,737 --> 01:39:36,772
majority passes not 

2688
01:39:36,772 --> 01:39:38,607
withstanding the objections of 

2689
01:39:38,607 --> 01:39:41,142
the governor. Announcement of 

2690
01:39:41,142 --> 01:39:44,545
committee meetings. 

2691
01:39:45,747 --> 01:39:47,348
Jess Representative Fraser 

2692
01:39:47,348 --> 01:39:48,316
taking an innovation meet in 

2693
01:39:48,316 --> 01:39:52,253
room 116 at 325 Chair 

2694
01:39:52,253 --> 01:39:52,820
recognizes Representative 

2695
01:39:52,820 --> 01:39:56,824
Wickham. State Local government 

2696
01:39:56,824 --> 01:39:57,825
committee will meet in 10 

2697
01:39:57,825 --> 01:40:00,829
minutes in room. I believe 121 

2698
01:40:00,829 --> 01:40:02,396
chair recognizes Representative 

2699
01:40:02,396 --> 01:40:04,398
Stein, Commerce and labor will 

2700
01:40:04,398 --> 01:40:05,833
meet in 10 minutes in room 

2701
01:40:05,833 --> 01:40:09,870
seventeen chair recognizes. 

2702
01:40:09,870 --> 01:40:12,974
wilkin. 

2703
01:40:14,308 --> 01:40:14,842
Robert’s Representative 

2704
01:40:14,842 --> 01:40:17,512
Lorraine Criminal justice will 

2705
01:40:17,512 --> 01:40:19,647
meet tomorrow at eleven chair 

2706
01:40:19,647 --> 01:40:21,181
recognizes representative 

2707
01:40:21,181 --> 01:40:22,850
Wilkins government oversight 

2708
01:40:22,850 --> 01:40:24,252
will meet tomorrow morning at 9 

2709
01:40:24,252 --> 01:40:25,987
AM Chair recognizes 

2710
01:40:25,987 --> 01:40:27,989
Representative Ots slicker. 

2711
01:40:27,989 --> 01:40:29,290
Thank you Mister Speaker The 

2712
01:40:29,290 --> 01:40:29,857
House Finance Committee will 

2713
01:40:29,857 --> 01:40:31,859
meet tomorrow morning at 9 

2714
01:40:31,859 --> 01:40:32,860
o’clock in the House Finance 

2715
01:40:32,860 --> 01:40:36,364
Committee hearing room chair 

2716
01:40:36,364 --> 01:40:36,531
recognizes Representative 

2717
01:40:36,531 --> 01:40:39,333
Ginter. Mister Speaker I moved 

2718
01:40:39,333 --> 01:40:40,868
to the house now stand in 

2719
01:40:40,868 --> 01:40:42,003
recess until the time to be 

2720
01:40:42,003 --> 01:40:43,405
determined for the purpose of a 

2721
01:40:43,405 --> 01:40:45,873
non-voting session without 

2722
01:40:45,873 --> 01:40:47,341
objection, the stands in 

2723
01:40:47,341 --> 01:40:50,445
recess.